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    why do non hybrids have healing abilities ?

    leeching poison from rogue
    healthstone heal from warlocks
    spirit mend from hunters
    second wind from warriors

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    Because Stone Cold said so

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    To reduce down time while questing and so they aren't free honor kills.

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    Because the classes are evolving and everyone wants new toys and tools to win and stay alive over the corpse of someone else. It's simple.

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    Well that was a productive read. Nice work Batmoonn. You certainly weaved a fascinating tale.

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    Because homogenization.

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    Personally i dont like it either. Everyone has 1 or 2 heals nowadays its rediculous.

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    Looks like someone got outplayed in arena or even a battleground.

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    Because most classes have had self heals for a very long time and it yields more interesting results in PVP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    To reduce down time while questing and so they aren't free honor kills.
    Pretty much this I figured. Some sustainability so they don't have to sit and eat after every mob, or can hold their own in PvP for a while.
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    Hybrid isn't the definition of someone with "healing abilities". It's the definition of those with it's own healing or tanking spec.

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    Because back in TBC I got sick of not only being unable to solo a healer but also getting owned by a healer because warriors had no self heals whatsoever so a healer could eventually kill you with his shitty offensive capabilities while keeping himself topped up.

    No! All classes need self heals, at least for this particular purpose.

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    Couple reasons I'd say. First off, leveling/questing/solo things. Wasn't fun killing two mobs and then eating/bandaging on my Warrior, then killing two mobs and stopping again. While I looked over and saw a Shaman or Priest kill 10 things in a row without stopping.

    The other reason I'd say is because in PvP it made Healers quite strong in 1v1 situations. Obviously the game isn't balanced around 1v1, but it was kind of dumb. I remember I was doing 2v2 one time with a Warrior friend while I was on my Disc Priest (back in Wrath) and we fought Rogue/Rogue on Dalaran Sewers, my Warrior partner died like instantly while I was CC'd, then I was able to kill both the Rogues alone 1v2 because I could just heal through their damage and between SW:P, Shadowfiend, and Reflective Shield they ended up dying because they had no way to heal. Yes, they were bad, I think they were like 1800 rated whereas I've been 2200+ since arenas started basically, but it was still just stupid.

    Not just Rogues either, I could kill any pure class 1v1 on my Disc Priest throughout all of BC/Wrath, Warriors were particularly hilarious in 2v2, I'd just kite them behind a pillar while they tunneled me and I'd solo them while my Warrior friend would distract their healer.

    So for that reason alone I'd say they need self heals, it was fun, but admittedly very stupid, that I could solo them as a healer.

    EDIT: Whoa the post above mine gives the same reason, I swear I was typing this when he posted so I didn't see it. For realz.

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    Because hybrids wanted to do equal dps to those classes without heals. It doesn't work one way. Hybrids are abominations in this game as it is because of:

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    but why does a rogue need healing abilities ? isnt that what a healer is for in 3s ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noggis View Post
    Because back in TBC I got sick of not only being unable to solo a healer but also getting owned by a healer because warriors had no self heals whatsoever so a healer could eventually kill you with his shitty offensive capabilities while keeping himself topped up.

    No! All classes need self heals, at least for this particular purpose.
    i dont think any class should beat a healer 1 on 1 tbh.

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    also why does a mage get an ability that reduces cc DR ? i can cyclone a rogue 3 times , but i can only cyclone a mage twice ? that doesnt seem to balanced ?

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    also why can a mage spellsteal my dots and top himself up faster than i can when im a moonkin ?

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    why can a rogue immune my entire burst every time it is up with the 1 min cd cloak ? and he can kill me through glyphed barkskin ?

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    why can a dk absorb my entire ns healing touch with heart of the wild up by spamming 1 ability

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    why do mages get a glyph that when iceblock fades off , they are immune again for damage , conveniently enough so that they can get topped up again ?

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    Because not having self healing would suck.
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    why do other classes get more than one trinket that me ? i thought trinket is like the universal thing where each person can only use it once every 2 minutes ?

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    also why can a mage spellsteal my dots and top himself up faster than i can when im a moonkin ?
    Mages don't really have enough heals to do that, unless you're trying to burn him while he has Temporal Shield up, in which case that's a player issue.

    also why does a mage get an ability that reduces cc DR ? i can cyclone a rogue 3 times , but i can only cyclone a mage twice ? that doesnt seem to balanced ?
    They don't. The only thing they have is mage armor which reduces the duration of magic debuffs on them.

    Honestly, it just sounds like you're really bad at PvP. PEBCAK

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