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    Seems like a way to spend money to avoid doing something boring.

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    it grants lesser charms? nothing new. there I discussed.
    The only constant is change.

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    Not going to lie I'd snag it if I had extra money fucking hate this charm thing lol

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    No discussion needed, its an item being provided by the Blizzard store (which possibly won't be available to US or EU) to assist people who don't want to do dailies or rares to collect their charms for their extra roll.
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    That escalated quickly.."Pay to win" is already on the PTR.

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    Will probably get for alts if it ever comes to US/EU shops - will ease the LFR grind hell for gear catchups.

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    Well played Blizzard. Introduce a boring as hell forced grind system, ignore the player base and say it's optional (to be fair it is by in large) then introduce a way to buy yourself out of it. Dick move morally imo but good business move.

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    if they sold mogu runes or whatever the 5.4 roll currency will be that would be more appealing to me.

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    Nothing to really discuss, It was discussed a few weeks ago when they announced it would happen... and it happened. I don't mind having it in Asia where they pay by the hour and why not buy the charms instead of buy the hour to farm the charms? I think it only makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by williedabull View Post
    That escalated quickly.."Pay to win" is already on the PTR.

    Win against who? Time?
    The only constant is change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sketch View Post
    Win against who? Time?
    All told, this is dangerously close to Pay To Win and I am not typically one to suggest that sort of thing re: the store.

    Paying to get an extra roll of loot is very, very, very similar to simply paying for loot to drop period. That is obviously very, very, very close to being pay to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zatetic View Post
    if they sold mogu runes or whatever the 5.4 roll currency will be that would be more appealing to me.
    A bag contains 50 charms which are 3 mogu runes. Ofcourse, the quest is weekly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisisvacant View Post
    All told, this is dangerously close to Pay To Win and I am not typically one to suggest that sort of thing re: the store.

    Paying to get an extra roll of loot is very, very, very similar to simply paying for loot to drop period. That is obviously very, very, very close to being pay to win.
    Yeah getting 30 gold is pay to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisisvacant View Post
    All told, this is dangerously close to Pay To Win and I am not typically one to suggest that sort of thing re: the store.

    Paying to get an extra roll of loot is very, very, very similar to simply paying for loot to drop period. That is obviously very, very, very close to being pay to win.
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    I don't mind the bag at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisisvacant View Post
    All told, this is dangerously close to Pay To Win and I am not typically one to suggest that sort of thing re: the store.

    Paying to get an extra roll of loot is very, very, very similar to simply paying for loot to drop period. That is obviously very, very, very close to being pay to win.
    No it isn't. We're still in the same formula of time = money.

    Either you spend your time grinding the charms, or you spend your money to get them. The money spenders aren't getting a power advantage over the time spenders, so we are not in a Pay-to-Win scenario in the slightest.

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    The lesser charms practically rain down on you if you do anything at all out in the world, including pet battles. And then you only need them for a few weeks. I think on the whole my characters are gaining, not losing, charms.

    I don't see this as a big deal at all.

    Yes, it is "pay to skip grind."

    "Pay to skip repetitive unimaginative trivially easy time-consuming activity."

    Some people find grinding relaxing. Some people feel compelled to do it. But some people don't have time for that shit and "have" to do it anyway.

    Sounds good to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisisvacant View Post
    All told, this is dangerously close to Pay To Win and I am not typically one to suggest that sort of thing re: the store.

    Paying to get an extra roll of loot is very, very, very similar to simply paying for loot to drop period. That is obviously very, very, very close to being pay to win.
    Not being nasty, but that is really stretching it quite far. It not similar at all for "paying for loot to drop period", your simply paying what might well be a pittacne to remove the time constraints regarding dailies. The take up of this will probably be very, very small as most players will choose instead to grind rep and get charms that way, rather than purchase them. This is just allowing players who don't have the time that week (due to vacations or whatnot) to bypass having to spend the few hours to grind them.

    It is certainly not paying for loot to drop. That is really pushing it.

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