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    Needing advice on 1st build

    Ok, so 1st keep in mind I have never built a pc, however I was born, raised, and worked in a mechanic shop for the 1st 25 years of my life... That being said, I am ignorant to the technical aspect of computers, however feel confident with the right advice from those more experienced than me, I can build, and be satisfied with what I get in the end. I was looking at your computer setup of the month, and wanted to know how you guys as a whole felt it would compare to this build a friend conjured for me... Currently I play WOW at somewhere between 15-35 fps and I want better (Isn't that typical of us men). However I would like to know, if i chose a more graphic intense game, I could still play at max, or near max settings, as well as get a quality all around gameplay. Currently, here is what I'm looking at.
    1 - Core i7-3930K 3.20GHz 6-Core 12-Thread 12MB Cache FCLGA2011
    2 - Gigabyte AMD Radeon HD 7950 3GB GDDR5 DVI-I/HDMI/2x Mini-Displayport PCI-Express Graphic Card GV-R795WF3-3GD
    1 - ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
    4 - ( to equal 16 GB )Corsair Vengeance Blue 16 GB DDR3 SDRAM Dual Channel Memory Kit CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9B
    1 - OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W Modular High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom
    1 - Western Digital WD1002FAEX Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Internal Desktop 3.5" Hard Drive
    1 - CM Storm Enforcer - Gaming Mid Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0 Ports (SGC-1000-KWN1)
    1 - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/FM2/AM3+
    1 - Crucial m4 256GB 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive SATA 6Gb/s CT256M4SSD2
    or other video:
    2 - EVGA 02G-P4-2678-KR GeForce GTX 670 FTW 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
    I would like your best comparrison to the unicorn setup, and if possible, the potential fps on each diff build, as well as any upgrades that you guys may reccomend that you would feel were critical (yet remain somewhat in the same price range) as well as if you feel there is money wasted, what are your thoughts there... Oh... and lastly, is there a timeline that i should buy the stuff, that may be cheaper than others, s/a with cars the best time to buy is towards the end or beggining of the new models release. Currently im in no real hurry, but im getting closer as each day passes to getting those 1st parts... Thank you all in advance..... Pit

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    I would...... not pick any of these parts. Each for various reasons (Too expensive, not correct, old tech, or overkill for what you want) Except maybe the case.

    I would first fill out the Build Sticky so we know your budget, where you are, and what you're aiming for.

    Needless to say, you can get a good system for much less, with the same or better performance.

    EDIT: Without knowing your budget (Which would look to be about $1500, based off the stuff you already chose), this build would be a good place to start. Will know more once a response is had.
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    My budget is somewhere between 1000 and 2000 dollars. the lower the better, but not at the cost of sacrificing something great for mediocre.

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    How long can you wait? New CPU are coming out soon!

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    However, I do want to have a proccesor, motherboard and power supply, that i can do upgrades to without revamping those items in the near future. Im not glued to that case though. Also, I just went in this past January, and spent 1400 on the pc i currently have at a computer supply store (and feel i got robbed). but no part of this pc will be used in the new due to the fact that my son needs a pc that will function with wow and other games better than the dinosaur he currently has.

    - - - Updated - - -

    im in no hurry... prolly sometime in the next 6 months would be fine by me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiinji View Post
    How long can you wait? New CPU are coming out soon!
    I wouldn't expect anything out of AMD to be honest. All they're doing lately is marketing gimmicks.

    This is about as good as it can get for wow. If you plan to try newer games, I suggest swapping the 760 out for a 770.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
    CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($53.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($165.99 @ NCIX US)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $1094.89
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-10 11:49 EDT-0400)
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    I went to the build sticky, and it seems as if the thread has been closed, here goes at my attempt to answer those questions
    Budget 1500 give or take 500
    Resolution I currently run a 32 inch tv as a monitor and a 19 widescreen monitor but want to run 3 monitors in the future
    I want to be able to do basic office stuff, s/a invoicing for a small 2-3 man business, so not alot
    United States
    exterior hardware, s/a monitor, mouse, speakers
    I will need an OS, not sure which s/a windows 7, 8 or other, as well as any other recommended programs for a preventative problems s/a virus protection or others. All legal ligit copies
    I wont need any exterior hardware for the build.

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    Edited in response to your last needs. The 760 won't cut it for 3 monitors, I switched to a 780. Added an operating system.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
    CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($53.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($165.99 @ NCIX US)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($653.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.90 @ Amazon)
    Total: $1577.78
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-10 12:10 EDT-0400)
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    Other than a price diff, why go with an I5 over an I7 proccesor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitbullpride View Post
    Other than a price diff, why go with an I5 over an I7 proccesor
    Heavy video editing or streaming that warrant the extra price for a 20% increased performance on those activities.
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    Ok, i do live stream in our 25 man raids, and wouldnt object to a build with an I7, almost would prefer it, could you gimme a build with an i7 vs an i5... sorry if im a bother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitbullpride View Post
    Ok, i do live stream in our 25 man raids, and wouldnt object to a build with an I7, almost would prefer it, could you gimme a build with an i7 vs an i5... sorry if im a bother.
    Same build with an i7-4770k instead of the i5-4670k.
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    is there a benefit to a liquid cooled unit vs fans, im kind of afraid of liquid in my electronics, due to as a mechanic, liquid cooled over air cooled requires more maintenece as well as potential problems... what are the pros and cons on a pc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitbullpride View Post
    is there a benefit to a liquid cooled unit vs fans, im kind of afraid of liquid in my electronics, due to as a mechanic, liquid cooled over air cooled requires more maintenece as well as potential problems... what are the pros and cons on a pc.
    Closed loop coolers like the one he put up (H100i), are pretty much leak proof. You won't have to worry about them leaking, nor maintaing them, as they aren't meant to be opened. :P They also tend to be quieter than air coolers, and in many cases be more effective.
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