do moonkins deserve an execute ?

[durrtygoodz]

This will suck. I prefer big burst at the start and constant damage throughout the fight, than being balanced around sub-20% damage.

[Jensxo]

i actually mighjt be 100% wrong haha im thinking of the talents before MOP sorry guys close this thread , i just went through and had a look and u guys are right , i thought more classes had a dmg buff/execute style ability. sorry all

[psycon]

im not 100% sure but i think those classes receive some type of execute form , by execute i mean, an ability that usable at low hp OR a passive dmg buff u get to targets that are on low hp. dont ferals get some bleed things ? ferocious bite or something , mages get some damage buff im pretty sure , rogues get a damage buff im not 100% sure on this , i havent looked at all the talents of every spec/class.

You are talking out of your ass aint you ?

No they don't.

Infracted.

[zephid]

im not 100% sure but i think those classes receive some type of execute form , by execute i mean, an ability that usable at low hp OR a passive dmg buff u get to targets that are on low hp. dont ferals get some bleed things ? ferocious bite or something , mages get some damage buff im pretty sure , rogues get a damage buff im not 100% sure on this , i havent looked at all the talents of every spec/class.

Nope, not anymore.

[Racthoh]

i dont like the idea of a Rng proc determining whether someone dies or not , i think boomkins are literally the only class in the game as of now , who dont have some sort of execute type ability/passive damage.

the dot pressure is more important than killing with starsurge anyway. the starsurge crits are just free defensives.

[boomkinhero]

Why would you want an execute? Your whole damage output will be balanced around the fact that you do have an execute ability at x% life of the target. Executes suck!

Amen to that.

[Pua]

Big topic this and given that I play a warrior and Elemental shaman, I see both sides of the coin.

I like executes, I think they add diversity to the game. Logically, then, I wouldn't want an execute on every class because that'd eat into the very diversity I'm so fond of. There are, however, logistical problems with executes that aren't great for the raiding game; low damage prior to it, shortened executes that don't balance out, and blowing people up in PvP. I think it works on warriors, for example, because they have other utility that makes up a "package" - banners, defensive raid cooldowns, an external tank CD and a strong execute makes up an interesting package. A class that just does pretty low damage until catching up at the end, without any other utility, would be dull and effectively pointless.

Do owls have good utility outside of a bit of healing or Tranquillity? I'm asking because I don't play one and don't really know. If the answer is no, then an execute probably wouldn't make sense. I suppose it depends what you like doing in an encounter.

[xtramuscle]

Mages doesn't have an execute ability or passive damage increase.

Fire mages used to do more damage below 30% (not sure if they still do)

[durrtygoodz]

Fire mages used to do more damage below 30% (not sure if they still do)

It was below 35%, and Frost DKs also did the same along with a certain rogue spec. Assassination maybe? Can't remember. Anyway they all got removed when the new talents came out.

[Glurp]

It was below 35%, and Frost DKs also did the same along with a certain rogue spec. Assassination maybe? Can't remember. Anyway they all got removed when the new talents came out.

Assassination's execute was they used Backstab below 35% instead of Mutilate. They still have it but it's called Dispatch. To the people saying the only Lock spec with an execute is Destro's Shadowburn you've clearly never heard of Decimation or Drain Soul.

On the actual topic, while something like having Starsurge cooldown reset when used on a target under 20% sounds cool on the outside, it will dumb down the spec even more than what it currently is, it will be like the Cataclysm Affliction Drain Soul where all you did was refresh Haunt while channeling Drain Soul. Having an execute ability also will generally mean that your class will be balanced around having the strong execute, so when there is a boss where you can't execute much (Megaera and Amber Shaper come to mind) then you're going to have a bad time trying to compete.

[durrtygoodz]

Assassination's execute was they used Backstab below 35% instead of Mutilate. They still have it but it's called Dispatch http://www.wowhead.com/spell=111240/dispatch.

Ah yeah that's right. I'm not sure why I thought it was a flat % dmg increase.

[Sainiunit]

Only if the execute is usable between 0-100%

[Deleted]

We don't need it. Our rotation is fine atm.

[huth]

I'd rather have the opposite, doing more damage at the start of fights.

But overall, i most prefer doing constant damage independent of mob HP. Any execute like ability always comes with the caveat that your sustained damage outside the execute range goes down.

[Deleted]

Deserve? What the hell does that mean?

It's like some people don't remember that this is a game. Besides, why would you want an execute?

[GKLeatherCraft]

No. Executes are for people. If you give moonkins execute then they'll want to start eating at the table, and getting opinions in raidchat.

No. This is a dangerous path.

best line I've seen in some time

OT: No, I don't think they do, They do some crazy damage at the moment any way, And giving them an execute means re balancing stuff and please, don't throw that at the devs lol

[Batix]

No, moonkin do not need an execute. We're finally in a really good spot, don't fuck that up by sending the devs back to the drawing board.

[apepi]

As long as we do more damage then the other classes that have an execute out side their execute range it is fine.

[Lucetia]

i dont like the idea of a Rng proc determining whether someone dies or not , i think boomkins are literally the only class in the game as of now , who dont have some sort of execute type ability/passive damage.

Elemental / Enhancement Shamans
All 3 Mage Specs
Demonology Locks (Not sure on this one haven't played the spec in awhile)
Windwalker

Those are a few who don't have a execute like move/passive

[Carpe Diem]

i dont like the idea of a Rng proc determining whether someone dies or not , i think boomkins are literally the only class in the game as of now , who dont have some sort of execute type ability/passive damage.

Ele/Enhance shamans...