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    Quote Originally Posted by Zstr View Post
    here is his trolling history
    http://www.mmo-champion.com/members/580477-lordreinhart
    check his last posts he is like throwing more oil in a fire
    gg sherlocks to find out
    Haha fair play to the lad, he caught a few gullible people

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    Can we just once and for all settle this.

    The first 'leak', showing Patch 5.5 Skysunder on youtube. It was leaked 3 days ago, August 12th. The picture seems to have been taken August 11th.
    http://imgur.com/7Oq7rwn

    The day after, the "The Dark Below" trademark application ravaged the internet. It stayed around for about 2 days. Meanwhile, the Skysunder leak was buried and lost in the Dark Below attention.

    August 14th, some random guy (assumed to be Nick Reinhart) thought it would be fun to leak an additional photo. This one was a poorly photoshopped "The Darkness Below" expansion logo, which standard PS glow effects on a black font grabbed off the internet (Google WoW expansion font). He quickly noticed his mistake, as the expansion was called "The Dark Below", and not what he had originally called it. He leaked a new image with his mistake corrected. The fake leaker's name is Nick Reinhart, and his mmo-champion user depicts him sharing the image. http://www.mmo-champion.com/members/580477-lordreinhart

    As seen on imgur, this was only uploaded 13 hours ago. A poor attempt at catching the attention of the Skysunder leak. http://imgur.com/ag6hTpD

    Not to mention, Nick Reinhart used 3D models from the game itself (old god tentacles, C'thuns eye) to make the logo. Nick Reinhart is attempting to take credit for the Skysunder graphic, or he's just an idiot fooling around. One thing is for certain, the leak is not genuine, it can be tracked down to him, all the leaks are on his youtube account, and calling him an 'artist' might be an overstatement. It's really not that impressive.

    The Skysunder logo is most likely a fake as well, but there is no source to track. If Nick had indeed made the Skysunder logo, he would have 'leaked' the original work, i.e. a screenshot directly from the computer.

    All in all, these two 'leaks' are not connected at all. Skysunder leaked a whole day prior to The Dark Below trademark news, and 3 days prior to the 'youtube leak' which Nick Reinhart manufactured.
    Well. There it is. I said it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vethon View Post
    If you look at the page source from the 2 removed youtube videos, they have some interesting tags/keywords etc.

    Flame test
    /watch?v=1zX1QEumV1A

    This video has <meta name="description" content="Jason flame effect, cc Nick">

    Dark Below
    /watch?v=VFW_lqdVdIQ

    And this video has <meta name="keywords" content="wow, hunter guides, hunter pvp, hunter, mabus, lordreinhart, nick reinhart, Warcraft">

    Any one who Nick Reinhart is?
    Good call on looking at the page source. Games over now lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velios View Post
    Not to mention, Nick Reinhart used 3D models from the game itself (old god tentacles, C'thuns eye) to make the logo. Nick Reinhart is attempting to take credit for the Skysunder graphic, or he's just an idiot fooling around. One thing is for certain, the leak is not genuine, it can be tracked down to him, all the leaks are on his youtube account, and calling him an 'artist' might be an overstatement. It's really not that impressive.

    The Skysunder logo is most likely a fake as well, but there is no source to track. If Nick had indeed made the Skysunder logo, he would have 'leaked' the original work, i.e. a screenshot directly from the computer.

    All in all, these two 'leaks' are not connected at all. Skysunder leaked a whole day prior to The Dark Below trademark news, and 3 days prior to the 'youtube leak' which Nick Reinhart manufactured.
    Yeah I guess it's still possible that they aren't connected, but since the meta description had Jason cc Nick, I'm going to guess they are friends and were both working on fake stuff. Jason being a lot better at creating fake leak stuff. Skysunder still looks Blizzard quality to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velios View Post
    One thing is for certain, the leak is not genuine, it can be tracked down to him, all the leaks are on his youtube account, and calling him an 'artist' might be an overstatement. It's really not that impressive.
    thats a nice bit of internet detective work there mr/mrs Velios. i tip my internet digital hat to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildmoon View Post
    Isn't this supposed to be the patch leading up to the legion xpac? It may be fake but you kinda missed the point of the creator of this logo..
    The patch that leads to the next expansion is actually IN the next expansion. 2.01, 3.0, 4.0, 5.01 for examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    Yeah I guess it's still possible that they aren't connected, but since the meta description had Jason cc Nick, I'm going to guess they are friends and were both working on fake stuff. Jason being a lot better at creating fake leak stuff. Skysunder still looks Blizzard quality to me.
    There are people in Blizzard's art department called Nick, and their last name isn't Reinhart. People tend to have the same first names.
    Well. There it is. I said it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    The patch that leads to the next expansion is actually IN the next expansion. 2.01, 3.0, 4.0, 5.01 for examples.
    I mean with all of the current evidence I understand why people would think its fake now, but I don't get why you would use that as the basis of your reasoning. Sure that's how it was in the past, but it doesn't mean that's how it will continue in the future. Especially given the promise that we won't see another year long raid tier. Seeing a 5.5 or 5.6 with some build up lore to the next expansion is totally plausible.
    Quote Originally Posted by Extremity View Post
    I like turtles. I would like turtle-based tier sets. I would like a turtle shell helmet, and perhaps a cheeseburger backpack and a chestpiece that simply places a red gemstone on my bellybutton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velios View Post
    There are people in Blizzard's art department called Nick, and their last name isn't Reinhart. People tend to have the same first names.
    Really? Both "leaked" and now removed videos reference "Nick" and you don't think they're related?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velios View Post
    There are people in Blizzard's art department called Nick, and their last name isn't Reinhart. People tend to have the same first names.
    That would be quite the coincidence.

    Still I'm not swaying from this is real. I fucking want it to be!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    The patch that leads to the next expansion is actually IN the next expansion. 2.01, 3.0, 4.0, 5.01 for examples.
    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    I mean with all of the current evidence I understand why people would think its fake now, but I don't get why you would use that as the basis of your reasoning. Sure that's how it was in the past, but it doesn't mean that's how it will continue in the future. Especially given the promise that we won't see another year long raid tier. Seeing a 5.5 or 5.6 with some build up lore to the next expansion is totally plausible.
    In this one case, I shall come to your aid.

    Blizz has said several times now that they are considering doing a 5.5 after SoO, mostly because it's tradition at this point to do an extra patch to make getting gear easier.

    It would very likely stand that since SoO ties up the rest of the MoP storyline, that 5.5 would be related to tying MoP to Expansion V; be that the Legion (Skysunder) or Azshara (who knows).

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    Quote Originally Posted by xinjun View Post
    Really? Both "leaked" and now removed videos reference "Nick" and you don't think they're related?
    Clearly they're related. Either he's someone that tried to capitalize on the hype created by The Dark Below (and he assumed it'd be a legion expansion), or he's also the source of TDB.
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    If you dislike where WoW is headed in your mind, quit. Really. Sitting around complaining about "promises" that may or may not have been made isn't doing anything to help your cause. It's just making you look more and more like the constantly complaining and perpetually offended.

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    i've lost track of whats going on now, whats confirmed 100% fake, and whats still possibly real?
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    its fake shitty art, made by some dumbass who was bored using
    http://weavesilk.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    I mean with all of the current evidence I understand why people would think its fake now, but I don't get why you would use that as the basis of your reasoning. Sure that's how it was in the past, but it doesn't mean that's how it will continue in the future. Especially given the promise that we won't see another year long raid tier. Seeing a 5.5 or 5.6 with some build up lore to the next expansion is totally plausible.
    You're talking about two different things here. That logo you posted indicates the start of an entirely new storyline, not an extension of lore from MoP, or the aftermath of the SoO. It is not an epilogue to MoP, it is the beginning of a legion invasion. That doesn't make sense if Blizzard's goal is to have a fitting conclusion to the MoP storyline, or to expand MoP's lore. Its very fitting if Blizzard's goal is to start a new storyline, and a new expansion, which they don't do until the new expansion is near release.

    I mean, following 5.4 there won't even be a Horde warchief, and we still have to deal with the aftermath of our actions in Pandaria. Now you're saying while we're sorting all of that out, its going to start raining infernals?

    Seriously?
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    It's clearly fake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    You're talking about two different things here. That logo you posted indicates the start of an entirely new storyline, not an extension of lore from MoP, or the aftermath of the SoO. It is not an epilogue to MoP, it is the beginning of a legion invasion. That doesn't make sense if Blizzard's goal is to have a fitting conclusion to the MoP storyline, or to expand MoP's lore. Its very fitting if Blizzard's goal is to start a new storyline, and a new expansion, which they don't do until the new expansion is near release.

    I mean, following 5.4 there won't even be a Horde warchief, and we still have to deal with the aftermath of our actions in Pandaria. Now you're saying while we're sorting all of that out, its going to start raining infernals?

    Seriously?
    You might want to watch the burdens of Shoahao, Blizzard seems VERY interested in tying the MoP storyline to the legion.

    Also none of what you're saying makes any sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    You might want to watch the burdens of Shoahao, Blizzard seems VERY interested in tying the MoP storyline to the legion.
    No they aren't. The Burdens of Shaohao was about what happened thousands of years ago during the Sundering, and how the emperor protected Pandaria from it.

    We already knew about the Sundering. We already knew that the emperor separated Pandaria from the rest of the world. The video just showed us how it happened, and how it tied to the Sha.

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    Ok so this now confirms The Dark Below logo was a hoax.

    /watch?v=s5PeNAaJMDk

    This doesn't confirm the trade mark as being fake though.
    Last edited by Vethon; 2013-08-15 at 03:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    You might want to watch the burdens of Shoahao, Blizzard seems VERY interested in tying the MoP storyline to the legion.

    Also none of what you're saying makes any sense.
    I don't know, what he said makes perfect sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    You're talking about two different things here. That logo you posted indicates the start of an entirely new storyline, not an extension of lore from MoP, or the aftermath of the SoO. It is not an epilogue to MoP, it is the beginning of a legion invasion. That doesn't make sense if Blizzard's goal is to have a fitting conclusion to the MoP storyline, or to expand MoP's lore. Its very fitting if Blizzard's goal is to start a new storyline, and a new expansion, which they don't do until the new expansion is near release.

    I mean, following 5.4 there won't even be a Horde warchief, and we still have to deal with the aftermath of our actions in Pandaria. Now you're saying while we're sorting all of that out, its going to start raining infernals?

    Seriously?

    Yes seriously. While the horde are deciding a new leader and the alliance is heading back to their places via boats(which could take weeks if not more) Lord Kazzak will appear once again and starts summoning the legion... we kill him and his minions and then head through the portal he created to the next expansion... and this all happens in 5.5 What is problem ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    No they aren't. The Burdens of Shaohao was about what happened thousands of years ago during the Sundering, and how the emperor protected Pandaria from it.

    We already knew about the Sundering. We already knew that the emperor separated Pandaria from the rest of the world. The video just showed us how it happened, and how it tied to the Sha.

    Yeah and how it's related to the fact that the mists dissipated right before the legion would attack in order to allow the pandaren to join the battle after they mastered their emotions like Shaohao did, and also allow other races to come and learn those lessons just in time for Legion attack.

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