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I am so tired of seeing terrible people, being admired, for being terrible people.
I'll wait for you guys to figure out this EF vs SS mess on a boss per boss basis Just wanted to add that maybe the legendary cloak proc will help with big spiky abilities when using EF instead of having to go SS for those situations? Would be nice to use it on cd instead of having it there "just in case".
And, there is nothing to wait for. The SS vs EF stuff has already been figured out. There will not be any accurate boss-per-boss basis, as everything is entirly bases on your raid, difficulty, composition, skill and what not.
You need to figure out for yourself whether or not you want to use SS or EF and at what point it's better for your to switch.
As a general rule of thumb if you wanna call it that - you should switch over from SS to EF when you have 4pt16. (other factors count into that one aswell, but if you dont wanna read this thread / make up your own mind, than thats the advice I can give you).
There is more than one side to everything.
http://www.sacredduty.net/2013/09/04/ef-you/. As Theck points out, however, bosses that challenge your instantaneous health with effects like Decapitate and Talon Rake will tend to lead one to prefer SS since the extra absorption at that instant is better than the healing from EF a fraction of a second later.
Last edited by Jackielope; 2013-09-05 at 02:54 PM.
of course, if the healers just don't heal and you die because of that, it is still the healer's fault. but if the healers do what they can and you come close to near-death-situations, it's pretty certain, that it is your own fault. and that is actually a good thing, imo.
I played around with EF for a little bit this weekend and found that having all that info available was helpful opposed to just having EF light up at a certain point. If you want less clutter, i'm sure Theck's WA string will be a good tool when he releases that though.
Personally when playing with EF and SS during lfr testing i found that burst fights SS worked out better for me and more sustained damage fights EF worked out better. I found it a little awkward using a HoT as a tank but I'll get used to that during progression!
I am actually looking forward to trying out eternal flame
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Immerseus: Lul, was that a boss? We accidentally 8manned this while waiting for raiders to get on, on first pull...Either way, the tank-swap forcing ability will gib you regardless of SS size unless you have CD's, so really, EF seems better here with the phase swaps and aoe damage. His actual tank damage is pretty negligible.
Lotus people: I had Rook, so can only comment on him, but I think EF would have fared better here than SS, since it would pad up some of the damage taken from the frontal cone/stun better than SS.
Norushen: No real feeling either way. V levels very low throughout so SS was weak, but nothing screamed EF to me either.
Sha: I guess SS? Again, very basic and no feelings either way.
Galakras: Probably EF, as I was on tower duty and ended up speeding up the stairs alone quite a few times to get started on them. I used SS and had no issues, but EF seems like it would allow a bit "looser" play. V levels were low outside of war-banners going down, which is another strike against SS.
Iron Jug: Def EF here. SS didn't take the edge off of bombs very well, and I found myself having to WOG up more often than I'd like. Add in siege-mode, and EF is a clear winner.
Shamans: I liked SS here, just because you can abuse V with the wolves/oozes to get moderate shields. EF likely isn't bad, but I was staying topped pretty well, which makes me think SS takes this one (for now).
Again, this is just my off-the-cuff judgement so far. The only reason I'm apprehensive to use EF now is because of the DPS/ShotR loss, but once I get 4t16, it'll be EF and no looking back.
20k and counting...Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
I rolled with EF last night and plan to do it tonight, and I was surprised by its power; I didn't expect such massive ticks. But the opportunity cost is legitimate; 6 HP/minute isn't trivial. Not to mention, I hated the ramp up time so much that I got frustrated and talented HA for the first time in months.