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    100 Romanians and Bulgarians take a job in Britain every day, official figures show

    SOURCE: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ures-show.html

    About 100 Romanians and Bulgarians a day are getting jobs in Britain, according to official figures.

    The number of people from the two EU countries has soared by more than a third over the past year, even though they are not yet allowed to work freely in this country.

    The number here has reached a record high of 141,000, according to the Office for National Statistics – over-shadowing the total number of Australians and New Zealanders for the first time since records began.


    There are fears of an influx of Romanians and Bulgarians next year when current restrictions on their rights to work in Britain are lifted


    The number of Romanian and Bulgarian workers in the UK has risen dramatically in the last decade

    There were just 2,000 Romanians and Bulgarians working in Britain in 1997, against 78,000 from Australia and New Zealand.

    The speed at which the numbers are increasing is dramatic, up 35.1 per cent – or 37,000 people – over the past year, while the numbers from most other countries are either falling or rising modestly.


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    Number of people in work reaches record high of 29.7million but a third of new jobs go to foreign nationals
    There are already fears of an influx of Romanians and Bulgarians next year when current restrictions on their rights to work in Britain are lifted.

    At present, they can only work here if they are self-employed, or are one of a limited number of seasonal workers allowed to come for up to six months a year but must then go home.From January, they will have free access to the labour market in Britain, like other European Union citizens.

    The influx is hardly surprising, given that Bulgaria’s minimum wage is 73p an hour and in Romania it is 79p, while in Britain it will rise to £6.31 for over-21s later this year.

    ONS figures for the last year showed that overall there were 307,000 more people in employment. However, of this number, two-thirds – or 204,000 – were born abroad.

    If the figures are judged according to a worker’s nationality, which can be changed, rather than their country of birth, which cannot be altered, two-thirds of the increase was among Britons.

    Immigration minister Mark Harper said: ‘These figures show that we are building an immigration system that works in the national interest and is supporting growth.

    ‘The rise in numbers in employment has benefited British citizens first, but we are still attracting skilled migrants to come to the UK where they are needed by British businesses.’

    The Government has repeatedly refused to put a figure on the likely influx of Romanians and Bulgarians next year.

    Ministers have said an estimate is impossible, fearing a repeat of the 2004 debacle when the influx from eight Eastern European countries was grossly underestimated by the then Labour government.

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    This forum needs a feature that any time Daily Mail is linked as any kind of source this video is immediately pinned right below the post.



    That said, does it even cover what kind of jobs they're taking? If they're filling jobs that nationals aren't even giving a toss about...who the fuck cares?
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    yeah thats not the point companys in the UK only higher these eastern europeans cos they work for like £1 an hour so big companys will always higher these overseas people cos british people want £7-£10 per hour cos of the cost of living in the UK is alot the money these eastern europeans get they send it bac kto there families taking money out of the UK economy

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    That chart is some pretty damn manipulative abuse of scales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warcraftmew View Post
    yeah thats not the point companys in the UK only higher these eastern europeans cos they work for like £1 an hour so big companys will always higher these overseas people cos british people want £7-£10 per hour cos of the cost of living in the UK is alot the money these eastern europeans get they send it bac kto there families taking money out of the UK economy
    Is this a rehersal for a mel brooks movie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    That chart is some pretty damn manipulative abuse of scales.
    lol no shit. Let's put a double scale on a graph...and then shift the numbers that we're trying to make a point with by a magnitude of fucking thousands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warcraftmew View Post
    yeah thats not the point companys in the UK only higher these eastern europeans cos they work for like £1 an hour so big companys will always higher these overseas people cos british people want £7-£10 per hour cos of the cost of living in the UK is alot the money these eastern europeans get they send it bac kto there families taking money out of the UK economy
    Big companies do not "higher" people for £1 an hour, that is extremely illegal and they are always under very strict scrutiny. The ones getting hired for peanuts are the very small businesses and the self employed, they can get away with it.

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    Nobody is going to come from Bulgaria or Romania to work for £1/h or something like that. With that kind of wage the standard of living would be significantly lower than they had at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haxartus View Post
    Nobody is going to come from Bulgaria or Romania to work for £1/h or something like that. With that kind of wage the standard of living would be significantly lower than they had at home.
    Not to mention that with that £1 an hour they will also have to pay for their own survival in the UK before sending home the single penny in change they have left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    That chart is some pretty damn manipulative abuse of scales.
    ^
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    but thats just what some ppl what to see, to have "a reason" to hate, and blame others

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    welcome to the world of graphs and their usage in manipulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    That chart is some pretty damn manipulative abuse of scales.
    You're totally right, I hadn't even noticed the scales at first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisberb View Post
    You're totally right, I hadn't even noticed the scales at first.
    Which is exactly what the DM is expecting to happen. Most of their readers won't even pick up on that, even after having it pointed out to them. They just see one line going up and another going down and there is some correlation in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TradewindNQ View Post
    Which is exactly what the DM is expecting to happen. Most of their readers won't even pick up on that, even after having it pointed out to them. They just see one line going up and another going down and there is some correlation in it.
    25 million UK nationals working vs 140k bulgarian/romanians..yes very misleading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisberb View Post
    25 million UK nationals working vs 140k bulgarian/romanians..yes very misleading.
    The point they're making is that there are OBVIOUSLY more than 25 million out of 63 million people in employment.

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    Are you kidding me? That graph is so misleading it could be a climate change prediction!

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    Dey terk er jerbs (tea and crumpets edition)?

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    Given the last statistics I read said that barely any Romanians or Bulgarians were getting jobs in the UK, I am somewhat dubious of the figures displayed here. That graph is also appalling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethul Ur No View Post
    Dey terk er jerbs (tea and crumpets edition)?
    i take it from that reply your probably an american one of the annoying ones who stereotype us british i like americans but if you are an american your whats wrong with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by warcraftmew View Post
    i take it from that reply your probably an american one of the annoying ones who stereotype us british i like americans but if you are an american your whats wrong with it
    It was a south park quote, lighten up.

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