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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Drakhar View Post
    With the exception of Four Winds, everything is gone in two weeks. I'm fully fucking aware of what/when new content is available, some of us just don't have the kind of time to play that we used to. I'd like to enjoy the content at my own pace when I have the time, not go "oh shit this is all gone come Tuesday, better rush through it today" every other Saturday. Which is what has happened for the past 2 months or so.
    I don't like repeating myself when people don't get the concept of the updates.

    You payed for the game and what's included. The content updates are FREE. You did not pay for them, they were just added. Meaning you do not lose or gain anything in the end if you did not play (and there is always a new update out, one leaves another takes it's place). You don't have time to play in 2 weeks? That's a personal issue, it's plenty of time. Besides gated achievements (which are very few) you can complete everything in a day if you are dedicated.

    You not playing the game is not Anet fucking problem.

  2. #42
    Can we not just compare GW2 to WoW at every turn? I realize people want to see something beat WoW, but a B2P game is not the way to do it. Many people will never buy WoW even if they wanted to play it simply because of the subscription fee. GW2 is a cool game and all and I really like some of the stuff they do with it, but its not in the same area as WoW really. They are two different types of RPGS.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H3-N9zoI5c Amazing video of 60+ devilsaurs raiding Undercity!


    My God, what a horrible creation. People seeing what they want? Thank God they tried to shy away from that. I know it pisses me off when I'm in an heroic raid, yet in the back of my head all I can think is 'some casual player is playing a heroic dungeon and not wiping.' -Vodkarn

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Vongimi View Post
    Can we not just compare GW2 to WoW at every turn? .
    While I agree with this sentiment, it is inevitable that all mmorpgs will be compared to WoW.

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Vongimi View Post
    Can we not just compare GW2 to WoW at every turn? I realize people want to see something beat WoW, but a B2P game is not the way to do it. Many people will never buy WoW even if they wanted to play it simply because of the subscription fee. GW2 is a cool game and all and I really like some of the stuff they do with it, but its not in the same area as WoW really. They are two different types of RPGS.
    To be clear, it's not the GW2 fans who bring up that comparison, it's the WoW fans who see "omg, something *might* possibly compete with WoW, I have to throw my 2 cents in to turn a positive into a negative!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryngo Blackratchet View Post
    Yeah, Rhandric is right, as usual.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by rhandric View Post
    If you read the article, it specifically mentions "Western" because it hasn't been released in China yet. So you have to go by the WoW West line, not WoW global, or you're comparing apples to oranges (of course, with the 8 year gap you already are, but at least leave some parity).
    WoW wasnt launched on China on the first year also.

    I just cant find the articles. Ill edit if i find them.
    by Aurust :
    Although i havent played it, there is I believe enough info to form a valid opinion.
    To give my opinion on the new WOW xpac..... Ive played enough wow to know MOP is a complete disaster..... I visualized playing it in my head and it was bad.

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by rhandric View Post
    To be clear, it's not the GW2 fans who bring up that comparison, it's the WoW fans who see "omg, something *might* possibly compete with WoW, I have to throw my 2 cents in to turn a positive into a negative!"
    Indeed but the Eurogamer article brought up the comparison in their article, so it's not entirely the fans fault for making the comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letsbefair View Post
    WoW wasnt launched on China on the first year also.

    I just cant find the articles. Ill edit if i find them.
    Yes it was.
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  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Doozerjun View Post
    While I agree with this sentiment, it is inevitable that all mmorpgs will be compared to WoW.
    GW2 Player: "Man Game of Thrones is a good show."
    WoW Player: "PFFT NO, IT DOESN'T EVEN COMPETE WITH DEXTER"

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Letsbefair View Post
    WoW wasnt launched on China on the first year also.

    I just cant find the articles. Ill edit if i find them.
    according to the eurogamer article, WoW sold 2 million at 9 months, but it ballooned to 5 million after a year. I doubt GW2 will beat that yearly mark

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Letsbefair View Post
    It is not ... check this graph:

    http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-1.png

    This is WoW Vanilla.
    From release and 1 Year later WoW has grown up to +6M subs on Eu/Us. They were physical copies .. so in average 6M copies were sold in 1 year.

    Lets not forget all the sales records the game had ... GW2 is claiming 3M in over a year ... WOW has seen those numbers in just 24H for their xpacs.
    They're using two very specific factors to determine GW2 being the fastest selling MMO, namely a nine month time span and only using western numbers.

    After triangulating against multiple data sources, it’s clear that Guild Wars 2 is the fastest-selling Western MMO of all time based on the first nine months of availability
    Your graph is showing yearly growth and also using eastern numbers and western numbers. Under the very specific factors used in the report linked in OP the claim that is being made for GW2 is actually accurate because apparently they're not counting expansions which is true WoW has beaten them there. It's probably safe to say that WoW is the fastest growing global game of all time, but GW2 is not currently global so they're comparing west numbers vs west numbers and nothing more.

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Letsbefair View Post
    WoW wasnt launched on China on the first year also.

    I just cant find the articles. Ill edit if i find them.
    Again, look at the graph YOU FUCKING LINKED. It has 3 lines for WoW: West, East, and Global. You're trying to compare the WoW global (6M) with GW2 West (3M+), rather than WoW West (2M).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozerjun View Post
    Indeed but the Eurogamer article brought up the comparison in their article, so it's not entirely the fans fault for making the comparison.
    True, but the link the OP provided didn't, and then someone had to go out of their way to find one that did to bring up that comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryngo Blackratchet View Post
    Yeah, Rhandric is right, as usual.

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    Is it true that there are no PVE raids at end game? Thats its all based off PVP.

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by xuros View Post
    Is it true that there are no PVE raids at end game? Thats its all based off PVP.
    No "raids", and no gear treadmill (a la WoW), but it's far from just PvP
    Last edited by rhandric; 2013-08-16 at 06:05 PM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryngo Blackratchet View Post
    Yeah, Rhandric is right, as usual.

  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by rhandric View Post
    No "raids", and no gear progression, but it's far from just PvP
    There is gear progression

    :/

    It's just not extreme like WoW is. You won't see your stats shoot from 100-300 in a raid transition like WoW does. It's more like 60-67

  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by waddlez View Post
    Just because it is temporary doesn't mean it won't be back. WoW has holidays, guess what happens when you don't get a love rocket to drop? You wait till next year. CONCEPTS!
    I didn't realize a random sidegame was actually a valentines day holiday event. The point is there's no reason for them to be temporary. And how about the achievements you miss out on, now that achievement points are suddenly a huge deal?

    Please point out what former temporary content has returned thus far. Thanks for trying, better luck next time.

  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by zito View Post
    There is gear progression

    :/

    It's just not extreme like WoW is. You won't see your stats shoot from 100-300 in a raid transition like WoW does. It's more like 60-67
    Well, yes...I should've said gear treadmill...I'll change that

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryngo Blackratchet View Post
    Yeah, Rhandric is right, as usual.

  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Karizee View Post
    Infographic celebrating Guild Wars 2 Year One \o/

    http://abload.de/img/gw2yearone6jkfp.png
    What are the 5 new dungeons in that infographic?

    I am confused.

  18. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
    What are the 5 new dungeons in that infographic?

    I am confused.
    dungeons is a stretch, they are counting the temp stuff in that

  19. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
    What are the 5 new dungeons in that infographic?

    I am confused.
    This was my initial thought.

    I didn't realize a random sidegame was actually a valentines day holiday event. The point is there's no reason for them to be temporary. And how about the achievements you miss out on, now that achievement points are suddenly a huge deal?

    Please point out what former temporary content has returned thus far. Thanks for trying, better luck next time.
    You ignoring the point doesn't make it not exist.

    AP are always being added every 2 weeks, you don't have an excuse besides your personal issue of not being able to play and you don't' need temp content AP to get any of the AP rewards, temp content ap is a small fraction of the entire achievement system.

  20. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by zito View Post
    I don't like repeating myself when people don't get the concept of the updates.

    You payed for the game and what's included. The content updates are FREE. You did not pay for them, they were just added. Meaning you do not lose or gain anything in the end if you did not play (and there is always a new update out, one leaves another takes it's place). You don't have time to play in 2 weeks? That's a personal issue, it's plenty of time. Besides gated achievements (which are very few) you can complete everything in a day if you are dedicated.

    You not playing the game is not Anet fucking problem.
    Please read my edit, that's a fuckin nonsense argument and has nothing to do with the point. Why don't you check your psuedo-elitism at the door, since clearly your only point is that you're pro because you happen to have more playtime than others.

    Quote Originally Posted by rhandric View Post
    To be clear, it's not the GW2 fans who bring up that comparison, it's the WoW fans who see "omg, something *might* possibly compete with WoW, I have to throw my 2 cents in to turn a positive into a negative!"
    Insecurity is teh funniez

    Quote Originally Posted by xuros View Post
    Is it true that there are no PVE raids at end game? Thats its all based off PVP.
    Not sure if serious.
    Last edited by Drakhar; 2013-08-16 at 06:13 PM.

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