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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Sarithus View Post
    Well I just out dpsed a Heroic geared warlock...so...
    You do know that most people in LFR just attack the boss enough for 30 seconds so we don't get kicked when people look at the meters and tab out and do other stuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chingylol View Post
    You do know that most people in LFR just attack the boss enough for 30 seconds so we don't get kicked when people look at the meters and tab out and do other stuff?
    He probably meant a heroic dungeon geared warlock. Only explanation outside him only having his pet attack.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Chingylol View Post
    You do know that most people in LFR just attack the boss enough for 30 seconds so we don't get kicked when people look at the meters and tab out and do other stuff?
    We ? Are you one those AFKers ?

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    I have topped an LFR dmg chart as a disc priest in pvp gear, why dont we see disc priest dps everywhere and clearly pvp gear is better. Not even a joke either.

    Thats kind of what the argument you are trying to make sounds like; I would leave what is good and what isn't to the people who take the time to do all the math and testing as well as the people who are the best in the world at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad_Murdock View Post
    We ? Are you one those AFKers ?
    I afk trash, not bosses.

  6. #26
    were not weak were just incredibly average and kind of lacking in the fun department when it comes to spec individuality and fun abilities/animations/spelleffects

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    Quote Originally Posted by MALNEXUS View Post
    Ok op just gonna say if you can't pull 150k by the time your 522 il you are playing an underpowered class
    I do pull 150k...easily.
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  8. #28
    Raid normal / heroic modes with equally geared / skilled players of alternate classes then make your decision (some logs would be a nice backup also).

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Sarithus View Post
    I do pull 150k...easily.
    Of course you do.

    1, Please provide us with a log.
    2, Please provide us with a log that is not LFR.
    3, So you are the best Warrior EU?

    Maybe we are all wrong. We suck at this class. Educate us.

    (I refuse to accept LFR anecdotes, because I have seen plenty of retards for example single target dpsing Horridon or some shit like that, then being all proud about themselves.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    Of course you do.

    1, Please provide us with a log.
    2, Please provide us with a log that is not LFR.
    3, So you are the best Warrior EU?

    Maybe we are all wrong. We suck at this class. Educate us.

    (I refuse to accept LFR anecdotes, because I have seen plenty of retards for example single target dpsing Horridon or some shit like that, then being all proud about themselves.)
    Wow. I'm actually not trolling. I think you people may be playing warriors wrong or something because is standard for me. This is confusing. o.o
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  11. #31
    150k isn't anything to be proud of but okay. You're raiding with afkers or mediocre players. Arms on live is one of the worst specs out there, maybe the worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brakthir View Post
    150k isn't anything to be proud of but okay. You're raiding with afkers or mediocre players. Arms on live is one of the worst specs out there, maybe the worst.
    and yet people here can't pull 150k. (and that's average)
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  13. #33
    150k easy huh? You're 11/12 normal. The final 6 bosses you only killed once, prolly joined a pug or paid for it, sadly. You've been logged on 4 bosses, damage done is as follows:

    116k on Megaera
    103k on JiKun
    134k on Primordius
    96k on Lei Shen

    Some ranks are older, but all were terrible ranks (except padding on Primordius) for their time.

    If you're beating people of equal iLvL that are playing a DPS spec other then arms, they aren't good. If you're "beating Heroic geared Warlocks", they aren't good. Making a thread about how good the spec is and how you can't understand why everyone isn't as good as you, makes you not good. You're a 519 Arms Warrior with no Meta and No Cloak. Not 1 person on these forums care if you beat people in LFR gear. Go troll somewhere else.

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Sarithus View Post
    Well I just out dpsed a Heroic geared warlock...so...
    This is purely anecdotal evidence and means nothing. Just because you have not come across people who know their class through and through and are willing to put the effort in lfr, does not mean that they don't exist. Arms is at the very bottom of the food chain at the moment. Show us wol parses of these heroic deeds of your and i'm sure someone will shred them to pieces. On live currently, it just doesn't happen. a dps of any class with a similar gear and skill will always out dps an arms warrior on a boss fight.

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    I think he literally just came here for the attention. Let's stop giving it to him.

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Swagger View Post
    150k easy huh? You're 11/12 normal. The final 6 bosses you only killed once, prolly joined a pug or paid for it, sadly. You've been logged on 4 bosses, damage done is as follows:

    116k on Megaera
    103k on JiKun
    134k on Primordius
    96k on Lei Shen

    Some ranks are older, but all were terrible ranks (except padding on Primordius) for their time.

    If you're beating people of equal iLvL that are playing a DPS spec other then arms, they aren't good. If you're "beating Heroic geared Warlocks", they aren't good. Making a thread about how good the spec is and how you can't understand why everyone isn't as good as you, makes you not good. You're a 519 Arms Warrior with no Meta and No Cloak. Not 1 person on these forums care if you beat people in LFR gear. Go troll somewhere else.
    Extra bit of info. http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...arithus/simple Armory link. OP seems to be logged out in RP gear, so can't tell his exact item level.

    Either way, 150k is possible on certain fights due to mechanics, but you aren't supposed to be beating anyone, except DK's if you are competing with people with equal or similar item levels. If you are beating them, they are either AFK or terribad. (There are some locks out there whom have been carried into HCs, cuz> Portals)
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    Arms is good for 1 thing--) Cleave,Aoe farming mobs. I kill them faster than on my hunter. And i can pull 30 barrens mobs (for example) and stil live due to insane selfheal on kills.

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Sarithus View Post
    and yet people here can't pull 150k. (and that's average)
    I did a heroic clear (excluding Animus, Lei Shen and Ra-den) as arms a while ago, I ranked top 100 in all fights (except ji-kun, where I fucked up and missed ALL the nutriments). I did worse on every fight than I did as fury the previous week. Arms is shit, and you are raiding with shit players if you top the meters as an arms warrior.

  19. #39
    I've played arms all this tier, mostly due to the fact that the only weapon I've been able to acquire in my 5/13 guild group is a normal Zeratt off a bonus roll, and I am HURTING on dps. I love arms as a spec but no matter what I do, I look weak in comparison to the rest of my group, especially on single target fights. H Iron Qon was a real downer until the final phase. The only fight I really shine on is H Ji'Kun which is total farm status for us, and even then I need to grab all the nutrients to really pull ahead.

    I've tested my dps reliably several times on the raid target dummy and with a 530 weapon and 538 total ilvl I can only pull 138k after doing 100 million damage, so it's not a small sample. That number is haste specced with good RPPM trinkets, cloak, and meta. With mastery reforges it's even worse. That's just sad in comparison to our group's warlock and mage.

    All that being said, I'm really hopeful for 5.4. Arms is still my favorite spec in the game and I feel like I've got a really good handle on it, and I'm hoping that I don't have to switch to my alt rogue.

  20. #40
    warrior damage is low, especially arms' damage

    point and laugh at people acting like their class is costing them their spot in a raid if you want, but don't deny that the damage is low

    Quote Originally Posted by OmertaLH View Post
    I love arms as a spec but no matter what I do, I look weak in comparison to the rest of my group, especially on single target fights
    take it from a guy who made you all a guide on how to play as an arms warrior in throne of thunder

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