While we all can agree WoW has flaws in its current model, I feel that every end-game experience they've released has been enjoyable. The player base has changed over the years, through each expansion since Vanilla. People have different tastes and they leave the game for many reasons.
We know MoP isn't their best theme, but it was an upgrade over Cataclysm. Even though a majority of people think the game is dying, it needs time to mend and heal. I feel the next expansion needs to bring something big to the table, that will hype individuals to come back and want to play.
MoP is the best expansion since TBC. WotLK brought most of the destructive changes to the game, Cata was just badly done, I guess because of the revamping of zones.
Virtual Realms should be here shortly, so if Blizzard introduces phased player housing and new character models in the next expansion, most people should be happy. My preference would be also for LFR to be for previous-patch content only, but I don't see that happening. I also hope the raids keep being as good as tier 14 and 15.
vanilla was meh, tbc was okay, wotlk was awesome, cata was meh, pandaria is awesome. this "majority" talking always...so strange people still do that. and a question from me: if you think those expansions werent good, why are you still playing the game ?!
I have forgotten more than you will ever know..
Stating an opinion as fact does not make it fact. Opinions are not fact. So don't be stupid and make a fool of yourself by trying to pass off your opinion as fact.
They have already made good expansions, Burning Crusade and WOTLK even though it wasnt perfect it was pretty damn good. However i dont think they will make another good expansion, the game will continue to decline and ppl will move on to something better. Oh BTW the numbers havent been declining since WOTLK as a matter of fact they went from 7mill to 12mill in WOTLK and didnt go down until the Zandalari patch in Cata...
And common guys MOP isnt good, numbers dont lie and the subs have dropped from nearly 10mill to 7.5 and will keep dropping, that only in the last 10 months. So yeah its a fact MOP sucks, you can not argue with a 2.5mill drop in 10 months.
Last edited by MaxJr; 2013-08-19 at 01:19 AM.
And also you're wrong about WoW getting worse, it gets better, but it's like painting over a rusty car, no matter how many times you do the rust will show sooner or later.
“4chan once took on the FBI and won,” a Brony told the New York Observer, “so you might say that My Little Pony is more powerful than the FBI.” Sethisto
Omg so many Wrath babies.
I still don't understand why some ppl think WotLK was a good expansion. So many ppl claiming Cata was shit, when in fact it was pretty much the same as WotLK, just with overall better raids (DS was shit, but WotLK had Naxx and ToC...).
MoP is obviously miles better than both of them, and so was TBC, THE GOLDEN ERA of WoW.
Didn't think TBC was very good. If blizzard made every expansion in the same mold that they did for TBC then WoW would be down to probably 3 or 4 million subs by now. Gotta appeal to the casuals.
WOTLK was NOT the golden era of WoW. It was the possibly the golden era of Lore with the Wrath King, the most iconic WoW character, almost perfectly integrated into the expansion. The only other things it had truly going for it was the epic Wrath gate quest line and cut-scene (the best in the game ever) and Ulduar (generally recognized as the best raid). It also had the worst and laziest raid ever (ToC). More importantly, almost all of the things / concepts that most now point to as being the causes of WoW's decline (LFD/Community/Flying/Sense of Accomplishment/Welfare Epics, bring the player etc, etc) were introduced during WOLTK which is why it is the expansion in which the most ever played and in which the decline in the player base first began.
The Golden Era of WoW, was despite all of its flaws, Vanilla. It was shiny, new, immersive, challenging (but still easy for newcomers to pick-up) and rewarding all at the same time.
But to answer the OP's question - Blizzard has gone off track so often and so far, tried to please too many and ended up pleasing no one, contradicted themselves and their game goal designs so often that they are not actually capable of making a good expansion anymore.
It seemed clear that you had fully formulated your opinion of Cataclysm before buying it and have admitted to a fully formed opinion without even trying Mists of Pandaria. I know many veteran players who have played all ages DO believe the game is too casual and easy, but there are many like myself who could make good arguments against that. You whoever are talking trash about a game you have supposedly not played for 3 years. How could you possibly know what it feels like? People on forums forming opinions for you?
been playing since mid BC. not the golden era. wrath was. cata and mop werent all that bad either. erbody just got spoiled from wrath. and its not as many people out there that hate the last two xpacs, either. seems like it because the minority have loud voices. i agree that wow IS in decline but it's because it's an old game.
I guess I'm trying to say that your nostalgia glasses aren't seeing WoW's history accurately. Also, saying that WLK was the start of the decline is essentially the pessimistic way of saying that WLK was the pinnacle sub wise. The decline in subs gained momentum with the long, long wait between 3.3 and 4.0 and it never came back.
BC was a golden era for WoW as well as my favorite, but Wrath was the pinnacle of the game. But with the gaming world changing and so many MMOs out there, I don't think WoW will return to its previous status.
They say that life's a carousel
Spinning fast, you've got to ride it well
The world is full of Kings and Queens
Who blind your eyes and steal your dreams
It's Heaven and Hell, oh well