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  1. #541
    Quote Originally Posted by Scummer View Post
    Nah I think it's just the Alliance being portrayed as dumb again. She has in no way been subtle about her usage of the Plague or the Val'kyr. In fact she's been the total opposite and has been using them as the vanguard and used as a shock and awe tactic. She has been using both whenever she can and in every engagement she can.

    I guess it's just cause Garrosh is Warchief and Sylvanas isn't. I guess the real test of all of this will be what happens to her after 5.4.
    Methods aside, Sylvanas is much more limited in her scope. She's only attacking the areas directly around her and only Lordaeron/unaffiliated territories unless directly ordered (Gilneas). Garrosh was going full derp conquest mode all over the planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColbaneX View Post
    If Garrosh hadn't have been belligerent in the first place the miscommunication would've never happened and they both would've realized it was the Grimtotem.
    Quote Originally Posted by ColbaneX View Post
    read The Shattering.
    Obviously you need to, Cairne started the argument, and was hostile 100% of the way.

    Also you should consider taking the time to actually:

    Quote Originally Posted by ColbaneX View Post
    read The Shattering.
    it was the Twilight's Hammer not the Grimtotem.

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    Also, Cairne was WRECKING Garrosh in that fight until the point where he got nicked.
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    Still find it funny that Garrosh got his ass handed to him by a 100 year old tauren.
    I ask you again to:
    Quote Originally Posted by ColbaneX View Post
    read The Shattering.
    Cairne got a few blows by taking advantage of Hellscream's overly offensive fighting style, but the Blow that nicked his chest also shattered his runespear only leaving him a the tip to wield, much like a dagger. Garrosh may have been tired at that point, but you can't parry a two handed axe with the tip of a spear, that you're holding in your hand.

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    So what you're saying wildberry is that, garrosh pvp'd on a pvp server?

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    Aside from the "durrhurr sylvanas boobs" comments, shes a captivating character, shes depicted as cold, unforgiving, but an ever lasting turmoil embedded from the knowledge of her past life, way calmer, way subtle with her actions. more focus is placed on her background and character development

    Garrosh on the other hand, replaced Thrall (back when he was beloved), instantly solidifying himself as the Scrappy Doo of WoW, any redeeming part of his character like in Stonetalon, was quickly negated by a stupid warmongering move, or his "ME EVIL ME TAKE OVER THE WORLD" attitude in MoP

  5. #545
    I liked Sylvanas because she's one of the most interesting of the race leaders. I liked her back story and that cold-hearted calmness. I don't like where Blizzard taking her or what they did Garrosh. Garrosh had potential to be like his father, becoming a hero to the Horde, but Blizzard made him into a ass that I will enjoy killing XD Sylvanas may be going down that same route as well though. They just dumped Garrosh as the new warchief then have him seem like a jerk so we can kill him.

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    Well, if I was a braying retard like half the people in this thread, I might say something like "lol boobs!"

    I think a large part of it has to do with how much of Sylvanas' characterisation happened pre-WoW. WC1-2-3 characters have been treated with more reverence than those that came after. Garrosh was never given the chance to be good, because he was mis-handled by inept writers. The only reason players are about to kill him is because Blizzard finally relented in their multiple-expansion campaign to try to tell players "No, you really do like Garrosh! You're just too stupid to realise it!"

    Sylvanas is cool. I think part of her appeal for a lot of people is that others hate her so much. Personally, I like the kind of camp, villainous nature of all her appearances. She reminds me of a lot of characters I remember from when I was growing up, like the Wicked Witch of the West or Dick Dastardly.

    Garrosh is just a reminder of what happens when you put a writer with even less literary panache than Knaak in charge of the development of a major character.
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  7. #547
    Quote Originally Posted by Inahu View Post
    Well, if I was a braying retard like half the people in this thread, I might say something like "lol boobs!"

    I think a large part of it has to do with how much of Sylvanas' characterisation happened pre-WoW. WC1-2-3 characters have been treated with more reverence than those that came after. Garrosh was never given the chance to be good, because he was mis-handled by inept writers. The only reason players are about to kill him is because Blizzard finally relented in their multiple-expansion campaign to try to tell players "No, you really do like Garrosh! You're just too stupid to realise it!"

    Sylvanas is cool. I think part of her appeal for a lot of people is that others hate her so much. Personally, I like the kind of camp, villainous nature of all her appearances. She reminds me of a lot of characters I remember from when I was growing up, like the Wicked Witch of the West or Dick Dastardly.

    Garrosh is just a reminder of what happens when you put a writer with even less literary panache than Knaak in charge of the development of a major character.
    Great post

  8. #548
    Quote Originally Posted by Inahu View Post
    Garrosh is just a reminder of what happens when you put a writer with even less literary panache than Knaak in charge of the development of a major character.
    I wanted to shove Garrosh's worthless face into that bonfire he was crying into since the first time I met him. My only reaction to the end of his quest line was "Thrall, you are wasting your time on THIS worthless piece of trash?"

    I like Sylvanas because she is distinctly NOT a lapdog. She has her own motivations, goals and desires separate from what the Warchief wants, causing interesting bits of friction and story to arise. My appreciation of this has only increased as Varian teaches the other Alliance faction leaders to roll over and fetch the paper.

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    In my opinion it is because Sylvanas' motives have been pretty clear from the get-go. She has never felt any true allegiance to the Horde, it is an alliance of convenience on both sides, and doesn't really harm anyone within the Horde. Garrosh's actions (until now) have been kept secret, and his intentions disrupt the rest of the Horde.


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  10. #550
    garrosh is horrible written, and well a simple brute; boring and unimaginative, not mention we are saturated with "bad cause he's corrupted" story arc, Sylvanas while not exactly be forefront for the story, is far more deep of a character and a general bad ass.
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