I dont get these people saying its impossable to wipe on lfr.....if your a tank or healer then you can pretty easily wipe the group......either by stopping healing the tank or delibratly overpulling/dying as a tank
Definitely not "creative" either like the OP states. Just a giant waste of time. Garrosh is still going to die in the lore, so wiping the group for the 'glory of the true horde' is a pretty damn big waste of time that changes and proves nothing. Actually it does prove the person doing it lacks brain cells.
The generalist looks outward; he looks for living principles, knowing full well that such principles change, that they develop. It is to the characteristics of change itself that the mentat-generalist must look. There can be no permanent catalogue of such change, no handbook or manual. You must look at it with as few preconceptions as possible, asking yourself, "Now what is this thing doing?" -Children of Dune
I've misdirected the bats on Tortos to the offtank so our healers don't go splat. I've popped Freezing Traps down behind healers that might get aggro on adds before the tank can. I've used Hand of Salvation on those exceptionally geared DPS that managed to pull off of inexperienced and low geared tanks, just so that they could keep DPSing and the tank wouldn't get frustrated with their experience. I've kited Garalon on 3 different characters, one of them who was still geared in mostly blues, because I know how the mechanic works and because I trust myself to do it properly. I've soaked the cleave on Garalon as ret because I've got enough experience as a tank AND as DPS to know how to survive alongside the one tank who knew the fight. I've also soaked it on my Destro lock with 1 tank, because again, I know how to survive it.
Not related to LFR, but rather to the Barrens commanders, I've often kited them on my hunter with Distracting shot (if there's no proper tank around, and my pet isn't able to tank it for whatever reason such as the poison bombs that would stop melee from DPSing), and I've even kited them as ret with RF up and using Judgement.
The only role I haven't played in LFR is healer, but I'm levelling a Resto druid right now, and so I'll be joining LFR sometime in the next few weeks. From there, I truly expect that I'll be able to find another area I can excel in on yet another class. It might be something simple like again, soaking or kiting on Garalon (because as a mostly HoT-based healer, I figure I can do either of those things relatively well), or it might be something like popping Cenarion Ward up on that DPS that's about to die to Life Drain, or rushing across the area a fight is taking place in to resurrect that 1 person who got unlucky and targeted by several boss abilities in a short time.
There's thousands of people that do these sorts of things. You often don't notice it, but there's plenty of us that go the extra mile to make sure that LFR is a success. It's not often we need to work that little bit harder, but when we do, we're ready to act. I'm nothing out of the ordinary, I'm just 1 guy who does have the potential to counter those who'd like to sabotage a raid (at least in most cases) or those who don't actually know the fights. I've raided LFR at different times of the week and it makes little to no difference. This week was the first time I intentionally saw someone try to sabotage a raid - life grip the tank on Megeara before we'd got everyone ready, resulting in it breathing on the entire raid, resulting in a wipe. They'd done it 5 times apparently, and I was only there for 1 of these wipes before that person was kicked. Before that, I've never seen anyone intentionally grief LFR, and this is running it on 2 characters since 5.2 launched, and on my third character for the past 3 weeks.
Griefers won't succeed in any raid I'm in, unless there's a significant proportion of them. The issue basically does not exist. There's more people there that want to complete the run without problem than there are that want to sabotage it. There's always at least 1 person, usually more, in each run that will go the extra mile to make sure we finish the fight.
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im nothing out of the ordinary....im just 1 guy! please pay attention to me when im claiming im the difference between your raid wiping in a video game or not....SOMEONE NOTICE ME (Synthaxx)
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Is this for real? Do you actually think people will regularly and constantly wipe (when\if possible) LFR encounters because they wan't to side with Garrosh? Really? ok... why did i even bother.
sure only idiots like yourself would even think of something so stupid as to do this
but youll be kicked over and over and blizz will see a pattern and ban you and rightly so
If flex is successful (and it will be) most "good" players who were carrying lfr's (for valor points, legendary quests, boredom...) will stop doing it thus making lfr even worse than it is now.
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That's pretty much my attitude: I hate to blame the victim, but Blizzard gives us the tools to deal with these idiots. When people have the ability to respond to this abuse and stop it but don't, either by conscious choice or just stupid cow-like complacency, well the behavior isn't their fault but they kind of deserve it at that point.
The incentive to run LFR now is to be able to run LFR (and other content Blizzard might have introduced) later. But that incentive doesn't apply in the last tier, unless you think Blizzard is going to spring some new surprise that (1) you'll really want to do, and (2) will require > ilvl 500 gear.
You can't really "Damage LFR" more than it already is, let's be honest.
We've had people blowing up the auction house for fun, people spreading the ZG disease for fun, we had the zombie apocalypse, people actively hunt down and kill players who are weaker than them for fun and even camp them until they log out in the name of PvP. Some people will grief in any opportunity they are given and this entire Raid, due to lore, is a huge reason for many players to develop an excuse to do so.
This isn't the end of WoW but the LFR experience is about to get a lot worse.