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    The 5th and final Old God?

    Now, depending on which source you choose to accept there are 3-5 Old Gods on Azeroth (we know there's at least 4 now).

    Obviously we know C'Thun, Yogg, Y'shaarj and Nzoth.

    However, what if there actually was a 5th, and he was the most scheming of all.

    Once we deal with N'Zoth (which I imagine we will within 2 years) that will be the Old God threat all but eradicated, unless something major happens to free the defeated Old Gods, which is a bit sad.

    What if, all along, we'd been getting corrupted by a 5th Old God.

    We know C'Thun Yogg and N'zoth were once at war and then chose to make an alliance, what if a 5th God existed somewhere on Azeroth and he had been using us all along to fight his war against that alliance and he will only make his presence felt once his competitors (the 3 mentioned before) were killed/beaten down for a long, long time.

    It's all speculation obviously, but I think it'd be an interesting plot point to have one who has remained hidden and separated all this time plotting his master plan.

    EDIT: By final I obviously mean on Azeroth, it appears there's 1000s of them in the universe

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    The what if game is always fun to play.

    What if the Titans created an old god mother and father who had babies and spawned mini old gods who then grew up to be Yogg Saron, C'thun, Y'sarrj and N'zoth. What if we havent even met the parents yet?
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    Maybe I am wrong, but I thought if all the old gods were killed on Azeroth the planet would blow up, that's why the Titans locked them away instead of killing them... Can anyone confirm this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macabre101 View Post
    Maybe I am wrong, but I thought if all the old gods were killed on Azeroth the planet would blow up, that's why the Titans locked them away instead of killing them... Can anyone confirm this?
    Well not exactly blown up however you can tell the lingering effects it had when you kill an old god - aka Yarsharj. Meaning the Sha which are the remains of the old god itself rather It's essence

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    they haven't written anything into the story regarding another old God. N'zoth seems to have the most power at his disposal.

    Maybe I am wrong, but I thought if all the old gods were killed on Azeroth the planet would blow up, that's why the Titans locked them away instead of killing them... Can anyone confirm this?
    Not entirely true. The only way to kill all the old Gods and prevent their ghosts from infesting the land (like the Sha) would be annihilating Azeroth and starting over, something the Titan's did not wish to do...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macabre101 View Post
    Maybe I am wrong, but I thought if all the old gods were killed on Azeroth the planet would blow up, that's why the Titans locked them away instead of killing them... Can anyone confirm this?
    I think it is meant more in way that the Death of an Old God has terrible consequences for Azeroth, killing them all pretty much result in a dead planet, beyond saving.

    Seems more logical considering that Y'shaarj's Death cursed Pandaria, Yogg-saron's death is rumored to allow Deathwing to trigger the cataclysm (SPECULATED, but Yogg-sarons death quote makes sense under this view).

    What the Consequence of C'thuns death may be seen, or he feigned death again.
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    Thanks for clearing it up guys. I just remember reading something like that when C'thun first was released in vanilla wow.

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    Leave that role to N'Zoth himself. Blizzard seems to build him up to something much bigger than his colleagues.

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    it seems that each has a continent that it "rules" over with the exception being n'zoth since its very much implied that he is near the maelstrom. if we go by that there should be at least 1 more. we dont have one in eastern kingdoms but its speculated that tirisfal glades has something under it.

    that would give us....

    c'thun on kalimdor
    yogg on northrend
    yshaarj on pandaria
    n'zoth in the maelstrom
    unknown in eastern kingdoms.

    all of this assuming that all the continents we know of are the only major landmasses of azeroth. personally i dont think we will get another full fledged continent on azeroth but who knows. blizzard can do anything they want.

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    Only one old god has been killed, and that was Y'shaarj. With C'thun and Yogg Saron, we have merely battled a small portion of them and did not kill them at all. We merely put them back to sleep. We have yet to battle N'zoth, and there is rumored to be an old god under Tirisfal as well. There are also old gods all across the cosmos and we have seen what can happen when they are killed by what happened to the Outlands we visited during TBC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Littleraven View Post
    we dont have one in eastern kingdoms but its speculated that tirisfal glades has something under it.
    and what it is was confirmed to not be an old God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralljin View Post
    I think it is meant more in way that the Death of an Old God has terrible consequences for Azeroth, killing them all pretty much result in a dead planet, beyond saving.

    Seems more logical considering that Y'shaarj's Death cursed Pandaria, Yogg-saron's death is rumored to allow Deathwing to trigger the cataclysm (SPECULATED, but Yogg-sarons death quote makes sense under this view).

    What the Consequence of C'thuns death may be seen, or he feigned death again.
    as far as i know....yogg isnt dead. we sure as hell arent powerful enough to kill him by normal means. unless something happened in the lore to him after we fight him. he is very much alive. hell even cthun isnt quite dead i dont think. hes "died" before and just got right back up (with outside help of course)

    the only confirmed dead old god is yshaarj and it took the titans to kill him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatspriest View Post
    Only one old god has been killed, and that was Y'shaarj. With C'thun and Yogg Saron, we have merely battled a small portion of them and did not kill them at all.
    credible source?
    We merely put them back to sleep.
    that goblin who touched y'shaarj's heart in the scenario says "I only sleep" as well, even though he's certified dead.
    We have yet to battle N'zoth, and there is rumored to be an old god under Tirisfal as well
    No, there isn't. Was already spelled out by cdev
    There are also old gods all across the cosmos and we have seen what can happen when they are killed by what happened to the Outlands we visited during TBC.
    We didn't see anything. Old Gods are not native to Azeroth but Outlands destruction had nothing to do with them and everything to do with Nerzhul trying to open a numerous portals to numerous different worlds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littleraven View Post
    the only confirmed dead old god is yshaarj and it took the titans to kill him.
    it took Ra-den and a stone mogu army to kill him and his mantid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moon Blade View Post

    it took Ra-den and a stone mogu army to kill him and his mantid.
    An Old God which seem to have a serious power over emotions is quite weak vs. Being that have no emotions.
    Too often, we are mistaken for druidic types. perhaps that's true for some shaman, but do not let yourself be plagued by the ignorant belief that we are always peaceful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Littleraven View Post
    it seems that each has a continent that it "rules" over with the exception being n'zoth since its very much implied that he is near the maelstrom. if we go by that there should be at least 1 more. we dont have one in eastern kingdoms but its speculated that tirisfal glades has something under it.

    that would give us....

    c'thun on kalimdor
    yogg on northrend
    yshaarj on pandaria
    n'zoth in the maelstrom
    unknown in eastern kingdoms.

    all of this assuming that all the continents we know of are the only major landmasses of azeroth. personally i dont think we will get another full fledged continent on azeroth but who knows. blizzard can do anything they want.
    The current continental separation is the result of the sundering. So unless the oldgod tentacles old their own territory into a single piece like the roots of a tree would, the separation of the continents are likely to be "random" geological cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralljin View Post
    An Old God which seem to have a serious power over emotions is quite weak vs. Being that have no emotions.
    laid low by a watcher and his grunts, not exactly "the Titans". Im just nitpicking.
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    this is about the best you are gonna get as far as credibility goes. unless blizzard comes out and says something in a blue post 9which they wont) this is all we have to go by.

    http://wowpedia.org/Old_Gods

    the only in game fact i can bring is the herald volazj quote "they do not die; they do not live. they are outside the cycle"

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    Where is that one user who was a mod for a while on this site and had imagined that Azeroth itself is an even bigger Old God...

    It *does* make sense, when you really think about it.

    Now I wish I had bookmarked all of his sources and everything. Azeroth is basically a special place and the Titans more or less locked it down, had they destroyed it... so much more would have been unleashed, basically.

    Or something to that effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littleraven View Post
    the only in game fact i can bring is the herald volazj quote "they do not die; they do not live. they are outside the cycle"
    I turned C'thun's eye in for a quest. He's not getting it back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bisso View Post
    The current continental separation is the result of the sundering. So unless the oldgod tentacles old their own territory into a single piece like the roots of a tree would, the separation of the continents are likely to be "random" geological cause.
    fairly certain they can move about freely. and since they dont really get along, im sure each would try and carve out its own piece of the new planet after the sundering. thats doesnt really prove there are more than 4 though. doesnt dispove it either though. this is all just speculation.

    there could be 2 on each landmass, even 3. or there could only be the 4 and eastern kingdoms is just untouched by them. or maybe they are afraid of the thing in tirisfal glades since its not old god related. no one but blizzard knows and honestly they probably dont even know yet.

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