Calm it down, everyone, please. Thank you
Calm it down, everyone, please. Thank you
Unfortunately, the line between annoying and harassment is highly subjective. If people start being "punished" for saying things that may be genuinely threatening.. it becomes a slippery slope where anyone can say "I feel threatened in this forum debate!!" Where to draw the line is a VERY important part of this discussion. As well as the definition of what constitutes a death threat.
Normal is the name for the mental disorder present in the majority of humanity.
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It's pretty standard practice that promo pictures need to be used as-is without any modifications (like the game's logo on the corner) and that trademarked items are italicized in the text so that they stand out as trademarks. All three games were mentioned as examples of having negative fan reactions.
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Maybe because people who like to start "GC needs to be fired" junk threads need some reality and attitiude adjustment, and are more likely to spot it here?
Never going to log into this garbage forum again as long as calling obvious troll obvious troll is the easiest way to get banned.
Trolling should be.
I read this the other day. It's quite interesting how far an individual will take their madness.
That was not a threat. That was a sarcastic response to someone who said he was mentally unstable. I agree the response got blown way out of proportion, but it is not relevant to this thread because it was not a threat. If he had told that person that he was going to go to their house and eat their children that would have been a threat. See the difference?
Here's the full article: Texas teen makes violent joke during video game, is jailed for months
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I'm sorry, friend, but the release-and-patch strategy has been around since the mid-90's, long before Ghostcrawler was even on the scene. Please quit blaming everything on Ghostcrawler.
Last edited by Ronduwil; 2013-08-20 at 02:22 PM.
I agree.
For me, I'm tired of spending money on games that developers hype, piggy back a second game off a successful first that then offer nothing but problems, changes that mean little to nothing but changed anyway.
EX:Begs the question why should it be made in the first place.The seemingly innocuous changes included reducing the damage of one weapon and rate of fire on two others. The changes, which were fractions of a second, spurred threats of violence online and an editorial by Activision social media manager Dan Amrich.
You want to piss off some gamers? Make a change that means nothing in the grand scheme of the game but definitely looks like you changed it simple cause you could as a developer.
Take D3 - blizzard deserves every bit of negativity they get. The drama that D3 launched with, the drama of the RMAH, the drama of itemization around the RMAH, the poor story and the overall doubt the gamers said about the RMAH before it launched to then read blizzard say something along the lines of, the RMAH was a mistake but we're going to leave it in anyway. As if blizzard didn't know this already and launch the game anyway and took gamers cash.
As long as there are forums and social media outlets where developers want FREE input, FREE think tanks, FREE ideas from gamers, wanting us more and more attached to the games, while still taking our money with no course of getting it back on a bad game then I got no problem with telling developers just how bad they suck. How they should be fired, released and let go and whatever analogy gamers want to come up with.
Beyond the over the top, death threats, raping, harming children ETC... ETC... I say tell them off.
"If you enjoy your games," he wrote, "have a little respect for the people who make them — and stop threatening them with bodily harm every time they do their job."
You want a gamers respect, develop a good game that launches successfully, plays well, has few bugs, has a good story and balance and isn't made just to take our cash only. Stop the release a game and fix later after you got our cash.
I.E. - Do your job right the first time and you wont get the harsh feedback that hurts your game developer feelings.
Last edited by quras; 2013-08-20 at 02:30 PM.
How do you figure? You don't have to deal with a thing. Unsubscribe and don't play any more: problem solved. On the other hand, this is their livelihood. The idea that they would jeopardize their families' welfare just to troll players is ridiculous. No one is perfect and sometimes miscalculations and mistakes are made. I am pretty darn sure that they are unintentional. They're the ones who have to deal with unemployment or lack of promotion if they screw up. They have much more to lose than you do.
So you honestly think that responding to nerfs with death threats is "earned?" You think they deserve that level of anger just because they're trying to correct mistakes that were previously made? You need to get a grip on reality.
This is how things worked before software patches became so easy to distribute over the internet. If a bug was shipped with a game it remained in the game forever. On the one hand, games were generally higher quality at release. On the other hand, games that were far more simpler than today's took years to release. If you think waiting three months for new content is hard, imagine waiting a year or longer for each content drop because the company had to ensure that each drop was perfect. There's always a trade off.
This kind of fan-made 'feedback', along with overall 3DO's incompetence and lack of perspective, is what killed original "Might & Magic" franchise.
Avalanche of butthurt death threats over 'BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW modern weaponry and aliens in my fantasy universe! BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! ! !' and New World Computing was forced by its owner company to start their upcoming line from scratch mere months before release. And now "Might & Magic" universe has been rebooted and completely overhauled by Ubisoft.
Thank you very much, dear 'fans'.
Signed: Me.
Cyberbullying is a joke.
None can harsh you in the internet, they simply can't. You can do two things:
1_ turn off the screen.
2_ Change your usernames, emails and IP... Making a new ID in the internet is as easy as eating cookies really.
People who still have problems with this should seek the help of a professional, but those are really a few persons.
Never going to log into this garbage forum again as long as calling obvious troll obvious troll is the easiest way to get banned.
Trolling should be.
I'm sorry but there is a fine line between saying crap to yourself and out and out threatening to murder someone and their families, if you do that crap to people it is against the law and for you to even compare them together it honestly shows you lack common sense and maturity.
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people - Martin Luther King, Jr.
And many times for balance I might agree with you. Just not here and not that example.
innocuous changes - Which to the gamers it was.
were fractions of a second - clearly it meant something to the games.
Thats not balance, thats called a balance change cause you got nothing else better to file it under. It's a change cause you want to see if it makes a difference in game with only computer drive simulation data, not real world and they want to see what happens.
That kind of change deserves negative feedback in a more then harsh presentation. After release, not really the time to develop by the, "Lets see what happens" method with such a minor change that was suppose to be innocuous but wasn't.