Republicans blame Obama for poor Katrina response

[Legevia]

My only thought is maybe they are confusing Katrina with the Gulf Oil Spill. We dont know what the question that they were asked if it was perfectly clear or if it was somewhat ambiguous as to what they were asking. But concerning what a lot of the gulf coast area considers to be a bad response from the Obama administration to the gulf oil spill this isnt surprising. And only polling 700 people and claiming that it is everyone is pretty ridiculous if you ask me.

[Rukentuts]

To be fair, the SEALs went in and did the wetwork but I seriously doubt that they did much in actually finding Bin Laden. I think the CIA are more to credit that to.

The CIA found him (using torture at times) and informed the Sec. of Def. Panetta (and Obama). Obama then ordered the strike which was risky as fuck given that there was no confirmation OBL was living there. The SEALs were the instrument of OBL's demise, but they went in under the POTUS' order.

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Wait, we're surprised that average Americans have no concept of how the government functions and who is in charge of what?

Shocking, I know.

[Deleted]

The CIA found him (using torture at times) and informed the Sec. of Def. Panetta (and Obama). Obama then ordered the strike which was risky as fuck given that there was no confirmation OBL was living there. The SEALs were the instrument of OBL's demise, but they went in under the POTUS' order

True enough!

[Dismack]

Stop being so dramatic. Bush wasn't a "bad" president.

Exactly, he was the most destructive force to have every hit the country. Never was more damage done to the country in 8 years then under his watch.

[Tinykong]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command...#United_States

Aren't you one of those guys who said Obama isn't responsible for Benghazi?

[Rukentuts]

Aren't you one of those guys who said Obama isn't responsible for Benghazi?

Considering there weren't enough troops on station to repel a mob, yes.

[MustangMark83]

Let's also pretend that the Democrats didn't raise hell every time something happened under Bush.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKdScVerrBU

[Tinykong]

Considering there weren't enough troops on station to repel a mob, yes.

But, it's Bush's fault that FEMA failed to activate the correct resources in a timely manner? That's a pretty big double standard.

[ringpriest]

You can critisize Obama all you want... but I simply cannot fathom how ANYBODY can possibly say that Obama is worse than the President who sent us to two useless wars costing thousands of American and innocent lives, failed to capture Bin-Laden, failed to send aid/response to Katrina, the subsequent pushing forward and OKing of torture, the constant feed of oil field sales of the Iraq War going to his Vice President's interests, and his Republican policies led to the near total collapse of the US and world economy...

But hey, I guess Obama's quick response and defense of Sandy (particularly when it helped a political opponent at the time, Chris Christie), his admin nabbing Bin-Laden, the ending the war in Iraq, the current withdrawal of troops out of Afganastan and efforts to establish good healthcare for all Americans don't mean much... It's like they're saying "if the president doesn't instantly make America like it was in 1984, then he's CRAP!!!"

But that's exactly my problem with Obama. He is making America like it was in 1984, just like his predecessor. Yes, Bush's administration was corrupt and incompetent, and Obama's is less so. But the country can survive and recover from corruption and incompetence better than it can the deliberate dismantling of its democratic fundamentals - rule of law, free press, civil rights, and so forth. And Obama has done more damage to the underlying structure of American civil society than Bush did. Maybe because he is a better, less corrupt administrator, or maybe just because W was first and he was second. But either way, following W on the road to hell was Obama's decision; he had other options and chose not to take them.

(I suspect you chose that year deliberately, but I just couldn't resist. )

[Rukentuts]

But, it's Bush's fault that FEMA failed to activate the correct resources in a timely manner? That's a pretty big double standard.

The POTUS doesn't give every single order. OBL was one that Obama gave directly.

That's how the military works.

[Tinykong]

The POTUS doesn't give every single order. OBL was one that Obama gave directly.

That's how the military works.

Obviously he doesn't give every order. If Bush is responsible for FEMA's/military failures during his administration, Obama is responsible for the same under his.

[Wells]

But, it's Bush's fault that FEMA failed to activate the correct resources in a timely manner? That's a pretty big double standard.

FEMA's failure was due to appointing someone with no relevant skills to its head. Bad appointments are certainly the president's fault.

[Nero Duskwind]

So we can conclude that when republicans see an option to blame Obama for anything they take it. I'm sure if you made a poll that asked if Obama was to blame for 9/11 you would get a bunch of votes to.

They'd vehemently argue he was flying one of the planes.

[Wildtree]

They'd vehemently argue he was flying one of the planes.

Which of the men listed below piloted the planes into the twin towers and Pentagon building:
Bush
Obama
Bin Laden
All of the above
None of the above


I'd love to see the result of that poll question.

[The Riddler]

To be fair, this thread would be more accurate if it said, "Some Republicans in Louisiana" as opposed to "Republicans". I'm not a Republican. I'm a fiscally conservative, socially liberal, Libertarian leaning Constitutional Constructionist. But is is inaccurate and misleading to say "Republicans" blame Obama for Katrina, when even this clearly liberal blog says that only 29% of Louisiana Republicans meet this definition.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/161910086/...ll-August-2013

Now actually, when you look at the poll's internals, it doesn't even look like they ASKED a person's political party. They asked whether you were liberal or conservative. And guess what? 17% of the "Very Liberal" people said that Barak Obama was more responsible - and "very liberal" is code-speak for Democrat. So this blame thing is not exclusively a GOP thing for Louisianians. Very misleading article, and VERY misleading thread title.

[Tinykong]

FEMA's failure was due to appointing someone with no relevant skills to its head. Bad appointment's are certainly the president's fault.

So now the President is only responsible for certain things under his administration? I certainly hope you don't blame Bush for the bad intel from the CIA since Tenet was a Clinton nominee...

[ringpriest]

So we can conclude that when republicans see an option to blame Obama for anything they take it. I'm sure if you made a poll that asked if Obama was to blame for 9/11 you would get a bunch of votes to.

Former NYC mayor Giuliani is already on the record saying, "We had no domestic attacks under Bush; we've had one under Obama". I think Faux News has made similar claims.

[Wells]

Riddler, don't even pretend you're socially liberal. We've all heard your "abortion mill" bullshit.

So now the President is only responsible for certain things under his administration? I certainly hope you don't blame Bush for the bad intel from the CIA since Tenet was a Clinton nominee...

The president is always responsible for what he chooses to act on.

[Rukentuts]

Former NYC mayor Giuliani is already on the record saying, "We had no domestic attacks under Bush; we've had one under Obama". I think Faux News has made similar claims.

Giuliani is a steaming intellectual.

[Deleted]

If Bush was so terrible, wretched, and a miserable failure of a president then why did he get elected a second time? Bush wasn't really that bad. Obama takes over and look at your precious country now, it's not going any better than it was before.

some ppl would argue that Bush shouldnt have won the first election, since he technically had fewer votes than gore. its funny how a country that prides itself in representing the best a democracy has to offer, doesnt technically have a true democracy.

also the Bush administration used some very clever fear tactics in his 2nd election, basically making ppl believe that if you didnt vote for him, you arent a patriot(and all the persecution that followed not being a patriot or when you just went up against the president you werent a patriot, which is ironic coz the country was litterally built on civil disobidience) and terrorists would overwhelm the country.