1. #1181
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuukon View Post
    Blizz is just dragging their feet. They're trying to postpone what should have been done years ago, in order to avoid doing it again any time soon, assuming WoW lasts that long.

    Unlicensed model edits have been done for WoW for freaking YEARS, all done by INDIVIDUALS, not an entire development company, and were done a LONG time ago. Blizz saying it's taking longer to do them is the biggest crock of shit they've ever spewed, pretty much ever. So ONE person can do a single race in a few weeks (and that's being VERY meticulous to details they prefer to adhere to), and Blizz STILL can't do it in the years since it's been requested... I'll just say "Yeah whatever."

    That coupled with 2 expansions of reused armor/weapon models/textures is why I've pretty much written Blizz off as the most money grubbing game dev since EA and Activision. Oh SNAP!
    If you are talking about that guy that comes here once in a blue moon nad posts some new model, yeah, those look like shit, not to mention he has unhealthy obsession with elves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insarius View Post
    I understand the consequences of the models not being just for players, and I really want new models, but new content is still a higher priority.
    Yeah but you know that Blizz is a multi-billion dollar company? They have enough devs to run the new content stuff and the new model stuff simultaneously and if they need more devs then they would have enough money to hire a bunch of new ones.

    Why do you act as if new models and new content does not work simultaneously in a company like Blizzard? They could easily run the 2 topics as main projects without actually loosing quality in any of the 2 topics.

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    During MOP beta they said it won't be done for release. I expected it to be in one of the first 2 patches and now the next expansion is near

    I think they overthink it, they are EXTREMELY afraid to create something that drives away players. And because of that we will end up with almost the same models just more polygons. I fear we won't see a lot of difference while playing - only when we really check out our characters. I would hope for less "hunchbacked" Orcs, not so stiff humans. Especially the humans thing worries me because tehy said they don't want to change the animations so it still feels like our character. I don't want a high polygon walking broomstick that humans are now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovyn View Post
    During MOP beta they said it won't be done for release. I expected it to be in one of the first 2 patches and now the next expansion is near

    I think they overthink it, they are EXTREMELY afraid to create something that drives away players. And because of that we will end up with almost the same models just more polygons. I fear we won't see a lot of difference while playing - only when we really check out our characters. I would hope for less "hunchbacked" Orcs, not so stiff humans. Especially the humans thing worries me because tehy said they don't want to change the animations so it still feels like our character. I don't want a high polygon walking broomstick that humans are now.
    Yeah I'm guessing humans will be the last to finish and probably the trickiest. It's kinda dumb though, there's tons of quotes saying the models would be staggered so why don't we have trolls and orcs already?

    Someone said dwarves are finished? I haven't heard of that and don't see it in the game (ofc that's not evidence that it's not done, but there's no way to test the player's reactions w/o placing in the game). Most casters/raiders are trolls... let me look like Sul already please!

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    It's not just a new model. It's a new skeleton, with all new animations. Hozen, not Jinyu. In Mists of Pandaria, we got the Pandaren male and female skeletons, Mogu male, Cloud Serpent, Yak, and Hozen male. That's about it. So, in reality, if they only did the classic races, we're talking about 3x the amount of animated models, tons of more animations because they didn't have to animate the Cloud Serpent's claws for, say, a point, dance, sit, stand, sleep, charge, yell, and speak animation, plus beard and ponytail options, plus all the hairstyles, and facial options, and just. It's so much more work than people usually think it is. It's sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantastic View Post
    In Mists of Pandaria, we got the Pandaren male and female skeletons, Mogu male, Cloud Serpent, Yak, and Hozen male. That's about it.
    ...
    It's sad.
    Edited for the easy dig.

    Also it's not even that many. Mogu are just reskinned Draenei. The yak is a third-generation elekk reskin.
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  7. #1187
    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
    If you are talking about that guy that comes here once in a blue moon nad posts some new model, yeah, those look like shit, not to mention he has unhealthy obsession with elves.
    No, I'm referring to uh... other edits... that might not be condoned by the moderators.

    Suffice to say, if you take the time to look for WoW model edits, you'll find probably dozens, all of them done by individuals, not a whole team.

  8. #1188
    Just not pleased with what it sounds like, just seems little is done. If indeed true it's only been a few months since they really started, then okay.

    My bugbear in the room is that I disagree with the need for them to look like the old ones. No no no. If they want that, leave the old models in as an option. One of the issues with the old models is how often the faces really don't look that great to start with or how few choices there were to start with (female trolls as a good example).

    Same feeling, okay can get into that.
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    It's pathetic that it takes an MMO Giant with 8 million paying subscribers can't update 20 models within 2 years, 25% is pathetically lazy.

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    They did verify that the pace they were working on was a bit slower. It sounds like now that 5.4 is essentially done, they can pick up the pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuukon View Post
    Blizz is just dragging their feet. They're trying to postpone what should have been done years ago, in order to avoid doing it again any time soon, assuming WoW lasts that long.

    Unlicensed model edits have been done for WoW for freaking YEARS, all done by INDIVIDUALS, not an entire development company, and were done a LONG time ago. Blizz saying it's taking longer to do them is the biggest crock of shit they've ever spewed, pretty much ever. So ONE person can do a single race in a few weeks (and that's being VERY meticulous to details they prefer to adhere to), and Blizz STILL can't do it in the years since it's been requested... I'll just say "Yeah whatever."

    That coupled with 2 expansions of reused armor/weapon models/textures is why I've pretty much written Blizz off as the most money grubbing game dev since EA and Activision. Oh SNAP!
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    Might want to add the new info how % is != to time remaining.
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    Reactions like these are why we're never told anything until big events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Futhark View Post
    Reactions like these are why we're never told anything until big events.
    Or you know, they could just be honest instead of giving false information so we get our hopes up.

    Also the news on the front page makes me optimistic:

    Are new character models not priority 1 right now?? /boggled If they are not.
    They are *a* priority. I don't think players would be understanding if they saw no new art in the game just to get new models. (Source)

    I thought these were expected feature for the next expansion? Guessing I assumed wrong.
    You should have no expectations for the next expansion IMO since we haven't talked about a next expansion at all. (Source)

    I just assumed since we didn't get them in MoP, they would be a major feat. of the next XPac. I think most ppl did
    I would not make any assumptions about future expansions since we haven't made any announcements about them at all. (Source)
    Or how should I interpeted these answers?
    To me it looks like they'll be announcing & showing something at blizzcon.

    Btw: how to make the quote blue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dead Bladez View Post
    I am sad and happy about this.

    Sad because they said it was going to released during MoP


    Happu because I would rather them take their time with them rather than rush it.

    They never once said when it would be released.

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    The recent blue remarks confirmed what I have been saying all along: They haven't been actively working on them as long as many of you want to believe. They may have said "we will be doing new character models" 2 years ago, that is not the same thing as "we started working on character models today."

    For all we know they have only been actively working on the models for the last 3 months. Then 25% isn't so bad now is it?

    ALSO, I would suspect there is a lot of UPFRONT time investment with testing, playing with ideas, and deciding exactly what direction to go. That is a lot slower than actually building the models once you have a gameplan on how to do it properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    That's just you then.




    And yes. We're so starved for content. I mean, it's not like there are people who complained that there was too much content at a too fast pace lately. We're really starved. Look at how famished we are for new content. How dare those filthy people who care about the look of their character ask for a one-time makeover.

    It's not just him. I couldn't care less about getting new models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baar View Post
    They never once said when it would be released.
    While I agree with this I have to add they did a poor job on communicating everything so far about the character remodel.

    Why did they say if they focused on the models they would only have dwarves done before MoP?
    That answer leaves room for interpretation.

    They were always way too vague on these models and tried to silence the playerbase by giving these vague answers.
    A lot of people believed they were a priority and were being worked on daily.

    It wasn't such a successful idea long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eviscero View Post
    For all we know they have only been actively working on the models for the last 3 months. Then 25% isn't so bad now is it?
    They have been saying: "we are working on them" for a long time now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evyan View Post
    They have been saying: "we are working on them" for a long time now...
    No it wasn't until MoP was announced that they stated they had done any work on them. Even at that point it was never stated how much of priority it was or even when they had started doing that work. Up until then the only thing said was that they like to but it would be a massive undertaking due to trying to keep everyone happy with the new designs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evyan View Post
    While I agree with this I have to add they did a poor job on communicating everything so far about the character remodel.

    Why did they say if they focused on the models they would only have dwarves done before MoP?
    That answer leaves room for interpretation.

    They were always way too vague on these models and tried to silence the playerbase by giving these vague answers.
    A lot of people believed they were a priority and were being worked on daily.

    It wasn't such a successful idea long term.

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    They have been saying: "we are working on them" for a long time now...

    Me personally, I think it's more players have selective hearing. They hear what they want and be damned if anyone tells them something different.

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