Homeland invaded twice, destroyed. Half of their capital city in ruins. 90% of their population wiped out. Suffering from addiction. Betrayed by their own leader. War after war after war.
You being serious, Trassk?
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If a non-orc is elected Warchief, I suspect that Thrall will return to lead the orcs as Elder Shaman, rather than with some other title.
The only thing that actually is making this seem weird are the players themselves with their metagaming attitude. The fact is that there IS NO REASON that Lor'themar couldn't be Warchief, other than players saying "well it would feel too weird if it was a blood elf".
Someone we wouldn't think about?
If Blizzard speaks the truth this rules out Vol'jin and Thrall. Also makes Lorthemar and Saurfang unlikely.
Someone we would not think about? Maybe someone who connects Horde and Alliance...
Shaohao? Would be the kind of Peaceful, Spiritual Leader the Alliance would surely want for the Horde... he also has strong bonds to the Alliance because Pandaren are at both sides.
Tirion? He is a human but as leader of the Silver Hand rather neutral. He has been out of the scene for some time now though and never really interacted directly with the Horde Leaders.
Eitrigg? Long time right hand of the Horde Warchiefs, knows a lot about the "business"... also has some human friends like Tirion and other Paladins.
He doesn't want to be leader, even of the bloodelves, but was forced into the spot...he did it because he had to for the better of his people.
I could see him being warchief for that reason, not because he wants to but for the better of his people.
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The only valid reason Blizzard needs to make this choice (if it is indeed real) is that Blood Elf is that most played race in the Horde. They honestly don't need more reason than that.
Still, I hope this leak turns out to be wrong. Warchief pussie just doesn't sound awesome to me. We can't have pinkskin 1 fighting pinkskin 2, it just alienates me from the franchise.
Assisting your allies overthrowing a tyrant IS "supporting your allies in times of need". As I remember, he takes a role in the Siege of Orgrimmar as well. And where is this list of rules for the Warchief set out by Thrall's vision? Garrosh wasn't even a good warchief, and Thrall knew he wouldn't be a good warchief, he was just the best and most popular choice at the time when Thrall was forced to leave the position. So much for "core characteristics". I'll grant you that pushing to leave the Horde for the Alliance was a selfish choice for the Blood Elves to make, but then again, it probably seemed like the only choice at the time. Who wants to see their people persecuted a second time? And who says that it's bad for the other Horde races if the Blood Elves had left? The tauren and trolls were already excommunicated, oppressed, or left the Horde to rebel. As far as Lor'themar sees it, the Horde he's leaving is nothing like the one he originally joined. He joined Thrall's Horde, not the "True Horde" that Garrosh was pushing. I also don't see Vol'jin or Baine doing anything for the blood elves. So, what, you're only a candidate for the Horde if you help out the savage bestial races? I didn't see any other Horde races helping out the Sunreavers on the Isle of Thunder.
Attempting to leave the Horde was a desperate decision made by Lor'themar, but one he believed was best for his people, especially since Vol'jin had already left as well. The will and strength to make the hard choices is what is needed in a leader, even if they look like the wrong choices to everyone else.
Granted, that's thankfully no longer the case. Though they have a small population, the Sin'dorei are fast becoming a force to be reckoned with. Not only do they have some of the Thunder King's most powerful technology, but they also have the power of the Sunwell under their command once again (thus Sylvanas' forces are no longer needed and the BC starting zones desperately need a re-vamp because of this).
I digress, I've gotten away from my original point; None of the other Horde races helped the Sin'dorei in their time of need. Why should they have helped Vol'jin when he needed it, especially when Cairne and Vol'jin himself got themselves in that situation by going against Thrall's wishes in the first place? Need I remind you that Thrall asked Vol'jin and Cairne to help guide Garrosh in his role as Warchief? And what did they do?
Cairne immediately challenged Garrosh to a duel (and would've won had it not been for Magatha's interference), and Vol'jin went apeshit and left Orgrimmar altogether.
I love the Horde, I was Horde from the RTS Warcraft games up until a little while ago, when I went Alliance to raid with some friends. But this all started with Cairne and Vol'jin's decisions to go against Thrall's wishes to guide Garrosh. Had they done as they were asked, we might not be arguing this right now.
You know what the Allies did after WWII? They didn't force Germany to pay for the damage a second time, as they learned from their mistakes.
Washington didn't want to be President, but he knew he wanted the rule of the King gone. Great leaders usually don't want to be the leader, they get made into the leader.
WOW simply evolved to remove tedium that for some people celebrate as difficulty or work from the game so that people spent more time enjoying the game instead of seeing it as a job. -ZeroWashu
I think the Lor'themar as Warchief would give the Horde a very interesting future story, a bit of change from the usual savage theme.
I wonder though, if a non Orc gets chosen, who will be the next racial leader of the orcs...?
Last edited by Kaniinchen; 2013-08-27 at 08:59 AM.