View Poll Results: Would you accept Lor'themar Theron as your Warchief

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  • I think Lor'themar Theron would make a fine Warchief. He's got my vote!

    304 37.12%
  • I'd be okay with it. Not the worst candidate.

    191 23.32%
  • I'm neutral on it. Don't care much either way, or am willing to let it slide, no worries.

    91 11.11%
  • No, I personally would not want him as Warchief.

    148 18.07%
  • This would be the worst decision ever! My rage will be felt on this!

    85 10.38%
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  1. #201
    It's funny we are at a point where Thrall doesn't "belong" as Warchief but a Blood Elf does. LMFAO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vensu24 View Post
    It's funny we are at a point where Thrall doesn't "belong" as Warchief but a Blood Elf does. LMFAO!
    the orcs would never approve of a blood elf.
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  3. #203
    If that is true, i bet it has to be because of him being the only horde leader that Varian would accept. At least it would make sense, much better than the alliance simply saying "well guys, we are done here, cya!" at the end of the siege. And maybe is just something temporary, as some kind of condition for a temporal truce.

  4. #204
    Baine would be a much more desirable Warchief for the Alliance, in addition to his friendship with Anduin even Pyscho Jaina respects him.

  5. #205
    Quote Originally Posted by Vensu24 View Post
    Baine would be a much more desirable Warchief for the Alliance, in addition to his friendship with Anduin even Pyscho Jaina respects him.
    I agree, Baine would be better and also more accepted by horde players, but if we have to assume that Warchief Bob is true, then that would be my explanation, also the fact that he had conversations with Varian to join the alliance (Psycho Jaina screwed that) could be a big hint in that direction. Anyway, we'll find soon

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    After he showed his disloyalty to the Horde by attempting to rejoin the Alliance, I would not want him anywhere near the title of Warchief.

    He, just like Garrosh, only cares for his own peoples' well being.

  7. #207
    I think he could do it, and I think the Alliance might trust him more in the role than they would Baine or Vol'jin. After all, Varian was in talks with him to bring the Blood Elves back to the Alliance before Jaina went overboard in her actions against the Sunreavers.

    As for the rest of the Horde, I imagine Baine and Vol'jin would support it as long as they felt they had a voice in how things went from there on in, and Sylvanas would probably not oppose it, though her support might be of dubious quality. If Thrall's drawn back into the politics of guiding the Orcs, I expect he would support it as well, or whoever ends up dealing with Orcish leadership. I expect the backlash of shame against the Orcs for allowing Garrosh to go as far as he did will see them getting a more diplomatic leader.

    Kinda funny, really. The Horde fractures into more individual leaderships like the Alliance, while the Alliance draws together in purpose and direction like the Horde.

  8. #208
    Quote Originally Posted by Mokoshne View Post
    the orcs would never approve of a blood elf.
    I think after Garrosh, they don't have much say in the matter; they've proven that not all orcs are worthy of being warchief, and when you are in an alliance of many races, they all should be able to take the reigns if they are a proven leader; which, Garrosh wasn't, he was a proven war mongerer and a huge mistake by Thrall hoping the job would change him for the better, not for the worse as it has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicGuitars View Post
    After he showed his disloyalty to the Horde by attempting to rejoin the Alliance, I would not want him anywhere near the title of Warchief.

    He, just like Garrosh, only cares for his own peoples' well being.
    As another poster put it better, he cares for his people's interests and well being.

    But you twisting the situation is dishonest. Garrosh commits genocide for 'his people'. Theron wishes to leave the tyrannical leader and his people being use as worthless pawns for a healthier, peaceful 'alliance'.

    He would essentially be picking the lesser of two evils, for the safety of his people. If he is warchief, he gets to make the choices to protect -all- of the horde.

    A great leader knows when to fight, and when not to fight. He has shed much blood in his years. A great warrior, will not needlessly shed blood or send their people in to die in mass for a small advantage unless absolutely necessary. Saurfang, a great orc believes this way as well.

    What you suggest is staying with an ally no matter what dark path they go down. That is just blind and stupid. Let us say a country that is your ally, starts killing people based on race, sends in your troops to the front lines to die, and acts like a dictatorship with an iron fist. You are saying that it takes more courage as a leader to follow orders like a good boy than to reassess your allegiances for the betterment of your citizens? Are you being daft?

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    There wasn't a choice that fit how I felt about this subject so, I have not voted.

    I personally don't think Lor'themar Theron deserves the reins of the Horde, he deserves better. He shouldn't turn towards leadership of the Horde, but instead turn towards his people and possible try and work better with the High Elves.

    He should turn away from a position of leading the Horde, and follow his people and himself down another path. He's been build so well in Mists of Pandaria, I would want way more of him and his choices. He didn't chose to become a leader of the Blood Elves, yet he's become a might fine leader.

    They, Lor'themar and his people, have a lot to go through still. Rebuilding of their lands, rejoining with the shattered groups of the Sunreavers - they as well, need a new home after being banished from Dalaran.

    I would hope for them all to take tools in hand, to rebuild their home to house Silvermoon's people, as well as the people of the Sunreavers.

    I forsee a lot happening within the Horde, but I do not vote for Lor'themar being the head of the Horde.
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  10. #210
    I like him, but it would be like a white dude bring president in South Africa.

  11. #211
    It's true that Lor'themar was making a consideration about leaving the Horde with his people, but he wasn't the only one. Vol'jin had been considering it since Garrosh came into power. Baine and Sylvanas would likely have made such plans too, if they didn't feel their people would be placed in incredible danger by such a move, considering their position. Right near Orgrimmar, for Baine, and with Alliance on her doorstep, and angry orcs in her city, for Sylvanas.

    I don't think his consideration about staying with the Horde or not disqualifies him as a potential for Warchief. It's taken time for all leaders to see the others were as willing as they to oppose Garrosh. To believe they have the strength to take back the Horde, together.

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    By far one of the least insane candidates.
    At least he is smart, and does not seek war for wars sake and would probably be less likely to be blindsided by Sylvanas' conspiring, and would show proper deference to the tauren, and is not a little snivelling punk like Vol'jin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vensu24 View Post
    Baine would be a much more desirable Warchief for the Alliance, in addition to his friendship with Anduin even Pyscho Jaina respects him.
    I like Baine, but i don't have the same respect or confidence in his wisdom and experience that i had for his father.

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    why do we need to be in orgrimmar? he can sit in silvermoon and rule everything from there.

  14. #214
    Umm, no.

    Call me a fanboy, biased, whatever...

    It needs to be an Orc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rageadon View Post
    why do we need to be in orgrimmar? he can sit in silvermoon and rule everything from there.
    Orgrimmar is more centrally located, Silvermoon is rather remote.

    Four horde races are centered around West Cental Kalimdor (Orc/Troll/Tauren/Goblin) and only two are in northern Lordaeron (Foresaken/BElf)

  16. #216
    Quote Originally Posted by Caerule View Post
    It's true that Lor'themar was making a consideration about leaving the Horde with his people, but he wasn't the only one. Vol'jin had been considering it since Garrosh came into power. Baine and Sylvanas would likely have made such plans too, if they didn't feel their people would be placed in incredible danger by such a move, considering their position. Right near Orgrimmar, for Baine, and with Alliance on her doorstep, and angry orcs in her city, for Sylvanas.

    I don't think his consideration about staying with the Horde or not disqualifies him as a potential for Warchief. It's taken time for all leaders to see the others were as willing as they to oppose Garrosh. To believe they have the strength to take back the Horde, together.
    The problem is Lor'themar wasn't just considering, he was all the way through until the Purge of Dalaran happened. And not just leaving the Horde, but joining the Alliance as well. That's the issue.

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    Even with Lor'themar Theron being my favorite of the leaders, and me being a massive Blood Elf fan - I just don't think he'd fit in right as the Warchief.

    I do, however, think he has what it takes to be the one, if it ever comes to it.

    But honestly, at the moment, I see a lot of potentially good Warchief Advisers but not one fitting the position of Warchief, per se. So my vote would still be: a Council.

  18. #218
    He's a good leader for the blood elves, bad for the Horde all-together, unless I've missed something that sets him more in line with Thrall sans his obsessive needs for universal balance.

  19. #219
    I enjoy the tears of orc supremacists so my vote is for Lor'themar.
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  20. #220
    I would vote for Saurfang, but since I can't, I'll vote yes. Sorry, but Vol'jin is incompetent, as much as I like him.
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