Let him be the boss!
Blood Elves shall take over. ;P
I think Lor'themar Theron would make a fine Warchief. He's got my vote!
I'd be okay with it. Not the worst candidate.
I'm neutral on it. Don't care much either way, or am willing to let it slide, no worries.
No, I personally would not want him as Warchief.
This would be the worst decision ever! My rage will be felt on this!
Let him be the boss!
Blood Elves shall take over. ;P
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Would love it, finally breaking with the retarded orcs vs. humans theme, and adressing all the races of the factions.
Anyone who doesn't get why Lor'themar wouldn't make an excellent warchief isn't azerothian horde at all. See what I did thar?But seriously If you want belf for warchief, then why don't you reroll alliance? Anyone who is ok with it, clearly don't get the Horde at all.
You're stuck in the past kid, move on. The horde has evolved, the game has evolved, the story has evolved. The ONLY reason I would accept another orc as warchief and or anyone recommended by Thrall is because being a game, the devs write the story, and they'd not do the same thing again by making psychopath warchief xp 2.0. If this were reality, I'd never accept another orc or anyone who has Thrall's recommendation because orc's have shown they can't be trusted, are easily corrupted and power hungry, and despite great wisdom, thrall is a fool.
And let me revisit the 'clearly don't get the horde at all' comment. That's funny you say that. YOU don't get the horde. The horde is nothing more than a group of miscreants without a home, the world against them who have come together for common survival. That is the blood elves, the forsaken, trolls, tauren, orcs etc etc. Blood Elves are the very definition of horde.
Baine and Vol'jin have only ever led their own people, the same as Lor'themar... and if we're talking about just leadership experience, Lor'themar is years ahead of them since he was the second in command of the Farstriders before being appointed Regent Lord. I'm not sure what specific towns have to do with anything, the blood elves had plenty of outposts in Outland, and there were a lot of blood elves posted in Northrend, who, along with the Forsaken and humans, had more reason than anyone to be there. Let's not forget the Sunreavers, the Horde representatives that even gave the Horde any access to Dalaran! Vol'jin and Baine's participation in Pandaria has been laughable compared to Lor'themar, who led his people and the Sunreavers in a campaign against one of the most powerful tyrants Azeroth has ever seen. But a tauren paladin babysitting in the Sanctum is a pretty good contribution too. Again, I don't get the relevance of this. All of the races in the Horde participate in the wars they're in, Baine and the tauren and Vol'jin and the Darkspear are not special cases.That's also very incorrect Statement since both Baine and Vol'Jin had been with Horde since it's been found. Baine was also mentioned in Warcraft 3 if I remember Correctly. Vol'jin for years was Thrall's right hand. He was sending his people to aid the Horde. So at each Horde outpost each horde's base you saw both orcs and trolls. You enter the Dark portal and you see orcs and trolls, you enter Thrallmall you see orc and troll grunts. in Northrend Kor'Kron troops has not only orcs but Trolls and Tauren aswell. Bainse is following his father, he is sending his people to Pandaria, he is creating his own troops in form of Sunwalkers, while Vol'Jin formed Siame Quasi.
And why would having a blood elf warchief change the Horde spirit? Is he going to channel the powers of the Sunwell and magically make all the Horde races nice and pretty? Is he going to kick out the orcs, trolls, and tauren and everyone suddenly has to remake their characters blood elves? Dull argument, what's next?And it is important to keep Horde's spirit. Horde always had and should have savage tune within it. That wat makes it different from the Alliance. Otherwise it would be boring as hell if we would have 2 barely different faction fighting against each other.
This is when you should have done your homework and/or held up on the bias. Sorry, I didn't know that it was the blood elves fault that the Scourge decided to tear through their homeland and butcher 90% of the population. I didn't know the blood elves were asking to break of from the Alliance because they were so egotistical, instead of being persecuted by racist human supremacists who, if they had it their way, would have exterminated the rest of their race. But no, yea, a troll tribe that had some troubles with a sea witch and her murloc pets is JUST as rough as racial genocide.You see Blood elves ended in this situation purely as a result of thier own doings. If they stayed loyal to Alliance and actually helped them, there wouldn't be such a tragic outcome. But blood elves are convenient egoists who only do anything as it's beneficial and convenient for them. They can only blame themselves for picking bad decisions. While the Horde always was sticking together no matter how shitty situation was, no matter how little they were, together they were creating something strong, they were joined by shamanistic roots, culture based on spirits, ancestors, and elements. Darkspears had extremely hard life before meeting Thrall, so don't go around telling that only belves are the only tragic figures here.
I'm so sick and tired of this argument. Short version this time, the rest is said about 20 times in this thread, not that you've read it clearly: The rebellion looked like it was going to fail or never happen, Vol'jin was presumed dead, Garrosh looked like nothing could stop him, Lor'themar wanted his people out but knew that they wouldn't be able to survive on their own so could only turn to the Alliance for help. Once these bridges are burned and Vol'jin turned out to be OK, Lor'themar dedicated his full force to the rebellion after the clean up at IoT.Leaving Horde, and plotting to join Horde's enemy are two different things. Vol'jin spent almost half of his life as one of the Horde's founders, he was against Garrosh, but he cared to deeply doe Horde, it was as much his creation as was Thrall's and Cairne's, they were brothers after all, those bounds cannot be that easily shattered. While Blood elves joined Horde becuase it was convenient for them, they shared nothing with other races of the Horde, they used to be mortal enemies previously. So it makes even less sense. Theron did nothing for the Horde, he was absent for a really long time. And he was seeking aoudience with Wrynn in hope of rejoining Alliance. there were no ties for him, he did no investment, he had no real bounds here apparently. so he wanted to join other more civilized party.
Vol'Jin despite the fact that his people were equally bad treatened, stayed in, and prepared revolution. He is the one who wants to stop the bloodshed, and Garrosh.
Because he really woudn't do a job. He is traitor, he can be good leader for blood elves, but he is not solid at all. He did nothing for the Horde, he don't get the Horde, and he is stuck there just because that's all he have right now. You can't revard such a person by giving him such a power. That's an absurd.
Because despite having mostly orc and tauren characters, with not a single blood elf on my account, I have accepted since Burning Crusade that the blood elves are part of the Horde and are equal to any other race in it. People always like to quote Vol'jin on about how the Horde are a "family", only to go on to alienate the goblins, blood elves, and forsaken, and how they could never understand that concept. I'd be proud to have a blood elf as my Warchief, because Lor'themar and the blood elves have as much right to call themselves proud members of the Horde as Thrall, Vol'jin, Baine, and all the rest of the Horde do.But seriously If you want belf for warchief, then why don't you reroll alliance? Anyone who is ok with it, clearly don't get the Horde at all.
Being a big fan of Blood Elf and Undead characters and their lore in general I would love Lor'Themar as the new Warchief.
(Courtesy of http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...c-and-reasons))Wrathion: But that idiot idiot, Wrynn, High King indeed. Why did he allow another Warchief, he could of united the world under the Alliance banner.
Lor'themar Theron says: Now, I look at our Warchief, and I begin to see the very same racism. He is willing to throw away our lives for his agenda.
Lor'themar Theron says: Know this: I won't stand idle if the Horde interests conflict with those of my people. I may reconsider old Alliances.
King Varian Wrynn says: I was trying to negotiate with the Sin'dorei. I was opening discussions to bring them into the Alliance! By attacking their people, you've forced their hand-
Right there it seems like this is the reason as to why Varian aloud a Warchief to be chosen. And it was stated that his choice will cause even more friction between him and Jaina, and by allowing a new Horde leader could do just the trick for such friction. And while I would expect Thrall to simply reclaim the title of Warchief, it seems like for some reason he has no say or is missing during the decision.
I can see him turning the Horde into what I imagine the Horde to be.
I really do not get the elf homo jokes.... other than their quotes, appearance wise they are some of the manliest elves I ve seen in any mmo.
Apparantely though if you have a slim body and you are not an oversized muscular chimpanzee you are considered gay in this game.
All I have left to say about blood elves is, most of the people who either love or hate them do so for the same reason: they are an exceptionally pretty race, particularly for the Horde.
He who sees his own doom can better avoid its path. He who sees the doom of others can deliver it.
Numbers you pull out of your ass shouldn't be used for arguments. Ass numbers are worthless.
And yes, the Forsaken, who could quite probably plague bomb the entire world and are a veritable war machine in their own right, are totally the underdogs, rather than the race who has barely 10% of their population left (less, considering all the wars that have been going on).
Anyway we're getting off topic here.
A poll would be interesting, but I'm not certain people would be honest regarding why they rolled their particular race.
I would be okay with it but who I would really love to see is Baine take the Warchief position it would be fitting given that Garrosh murdered his father.