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    Cancer cant have a "cure" in the typical sense. It is not a virus, it is not bacteria, it is a genetically defective cell growth that spreads through out your body and destroys what it can. (very abridged)

    There can be no single "cure" for cancer. It must be tailored to the individual. We are only starting to see breakthroughs in this. Cancer, is also genetically based in most cases. There are ways to slow cancer growth and even prevent it, or move it further down the road of life by living a better life style and avoiding certain substances.

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    WHat do you think radiation treatment even is? It... its designed to sorta try to kill you, just to kill those specific cells

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    In this thread --> Lots of people who have no idea who pharmaceutical research and patenting really work.

    The idea that a drug company would ever hold back a drug to keep people "sick and paying" is absolutely ridiculous. Big Pharma has every possible incentive to do the OPPPOSITE, and get their product out as soon as possible before it goes generic and every shmoe with a pill press can duplicate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urti View Post
    In this thread --> Lots of people who have no idea who pharmaceutical research and patenting really work.

    The idea that a drug company would ever hold back a drug to keep people "sick and paying" is absolutely ridiculous. Big Pharma has every possible incentive to do the OPPPOSITE, and get their product out as soon as possible before it goes generic and every shmoe with a pill press can duplicate it.
    It makes me think that they heard those were bad, but missed out on why or the context in which they are bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urti View Post
    In this thread --> Lots of people who have no idea who pharmaceutical research and patenting really work.

    The idea that a drug company would ever hold back a drug to keep people "sick and paying" is absolutely ridiculous. Big Pharma has every possible incentive to do the OPPPOSITE, and get their product out as soon as possible before it goes generic and every shmoe with a pill press can duplicate it.
    Also worth mentioning that Big Pharma isn't the only player when it comes to research. There's simply no incentive at all for the NCI to or an academic institution to say, "hey, we're sitting on the biggest discovery of the century in medicine, but we'll not be publishing it, because MONEY SOMEHOW".

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    We have "cures," many people survive cancer... what we need is easier cures with fewer side effects and risks.

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    Because the closest thing we have is Marijuana, and somehow the world has been brainwashed into thinking marijuana is more dangerous than heroin, when in fact it treats more diseases than penicillin. But you can´t patent a plant and make billions so the medicinal industry lobby heavily to keep marijuana illegal. http://www.letfreedomgrow.com/cmu/Dr...uriya_list.htm

    I strongly advise you to watch this if cancer treatment really interests you.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHnQ-YAqAsA&noredirect=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bantokar View Post
    Because the closest thing we have is Marijuana, and somehow the world has been brainwashed into thinking marijuana is more dangerous than heroin, when in fact it treats more diseases than penicillin. But you can´t patent a plant and make billions so the medicinal industry lobby heavily to keep marijuana illegal. http://www.letfreedomgrow.com/cmu/Dr...uriya_list.htm

    I strongly advise you to watch this if cancer treatment really interests you.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHnQ-YAqAsA&noredirect=1
    The curative effects of any plant are a function of the compounds it produces, which can all be isolated, synthesized, and refined given enough time. Your "can't be patented" argument is BS. Marijuana has shown some promise in mitigating some of the side effects of chemotherapy, as well as some implications in memory formation/recall. It is NOT some magic cure for everything like a lot of people like to claim. Making such unrealistic and hyperbolic claims actually does more harm than good to the legalization effort. Your snake oil argument is BS.

    Marijuana needs to be legalized, researched, and used to it's potential. It does NOT need some well-intentioned, yet poorly informed PR fan-club hawking it like some cure-all quack tonic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bantokar View Post
    Because the closest thing we have is Marijuana, and somehow the world has been brainwashed into thinking marijuana is more dangerous than heroin, when in fact it treats more diseases than penicillin. But you can´t patent a plant and make billions so the medicinal industry lobby heavily to keep marijuana illegal. http://www.letfreedomgrow.com/cmu/Dr...uriya_list.htm

    I strongly advise you to watch this if cancer treatment really interests you.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHnQ-YAqAsA&noredirect=1
    Heroin(diacetylmorphine ) actually has medical use in the UK and many other countries around the world as a pain killer, legal with prescription. I agree Marijuana should also be used to it's true potential. However as the person above me said, it's not the magic cure to cancer.

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