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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Achievment earned - Trassk ignorance. And i thought this day couldnt get any better
    oh yes the day has been great. I've seen a bunch of ignorant fangirls rev about an illusion like they think its real, well ignoring the released video of all the horde and alliance leaders standing over Garrosh's corpse.
    Yes, it has been a good day indeed.

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    Premature celebration, Traask doesnt ignore, he starts bitching again once you say something that offends him slightly (basicaly everything).
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    Oks, Moon Blade, Trassk, you're right, the only thing i wanted to point out is that it would be cool if the bad guys win at least once (is true that they can't have the utterly victory)

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxilian View Post
    Oks, Moon Blade, Trassk, you're right, the only thing i wanted to point out is that it would be cool if the bad guys win at least once (is true that they can't have the utterly victory)
    They can, if they become playable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxilian View Post
    Oks, Moon Blade, Trassk, you're right, the only thing i wanted to point out is that it would be cool if the bad guys win at least once (is true that they can't have the utterly victory)
    and with that said they do. Look at Deathwing's destruction in the world, look at the Vale in 5.4 amongst other things. Those are the victories, they are reversed and turned into defeats by our characters as gameplay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    oh yes the day has been great. I've seen a bunch of ignorant fangirls rev about an illusion like they think its real, well ignoring the released video of all the horde and alliance leaders standing over Garrosh's corpse.
    Yes, it has been a good day indeed.
    As i said before, i know that these's just an ilusion and it won't happen, but it would be a cool twist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
    They can, if they become playable.
    No, they can't, in the same way no one faction, Alliance or Horde, will ever have a decisive and utter victory over the other. Even when one faction is romping around the other's with an army and offering a title "Conqueror of Orgrimmar" for doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxilian View Post
    Oks, Moon Blade, Trassk, you're right, the only thing i wanted to point out is that it would be cool if the bad guys win at least once (is true that they can't have the utterly victory)
    Yeah, they don't need to win the entire game to get a leg up on us by the end of an expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moon Blade View Post
    and with that said they do. Look at Deathwing's destruction in the world, look at the Vale in 5.4 amongst other things. Those are the victories, they are reversed and turned into defeats by our characters as gameplay
    The problem is that most of those are small victories, and in case of Deathwing, that's was only when he appeared, he didn't fought anyone, it would have been a victory if he had to fight the aspect, and in the end he got the world to that state, etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxilian View Post
    Oks, Moon Blade, Trassk, you're right, the only thing i wanted to point out is that it would be cool if the bad guys win at least once (is true that they can't have the utterly victory)
    Then your in the wrong game. You really are. You want to have all faction leaders and factions destroyed by garrosh.. and then wow dies and you people have nothing left to bitch about. Think logically on this for a moment please, you seem like someone who has more common sense then the others here, so I'm guessing you know what your hoping for couldn't happen.

    Villians winning in video games doesn't mean they keep going. Take Kefka from ff6, who did achieve his goal, he did destroy the world, but the heroes in that game still pulled together and killed him in the end.

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    Velen's people already experienced genocide from the orcs once. You'd think he'd want to get involved in this conflict of orcs trying to commit genocide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moon Blade View Post
    No, they can't, in the same way no one faction, Alliance or Horde, will ever have a decisive and utter victory over the other. Even when one faction is romping around the other's with an army and offering a title "Conqueror of Orgrimmar" for doing it.
    Its called epilogue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxilian View Post
    The problem is that most of those are small victories, and in case of Deathwing, that's was only when he appeared, he didn't fought anyone, it would have been a victory if he had to fight the aspect, and in the end he got the world to that state, etc...
    The Twilight's Hammer could be found all over the world trying to push Deathwing's agenda, he also showed up torching entire zones into glass and ash (none of which was permanent for obvious gameplay reasons). They weren't small victories, Deathwing's agenda was killing everything and everyone in sight, and he did a damned good job of it. That's the goal of evil for sake of evil, murder, mayhem, and bloodshed. Deathwing had numerous victories, but was ultimately defeated. We also saw what his ultimate victory would've been. I can't really think why you need more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxilian View Post
    Oks, Moon Blade, Trassk, you're right, the only thing i wanted to point out is that it would be cool if the bad guys win at least once (is true that they can't have the utterly victory)
    They do have victories now and again. The ending of Throne of the Tides for example. They just don't win at the end of the story, ie raids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
    Its called epilogue.
    No, there is no "epilogue" to a story still being written. If they made a Scourge faction, which I'm sure *you* would love to be on you wouldn't have any major lore victory anywhere that would effect gameplay in a dramatic way. The story would be the scourge added to an other permanently stalemated set of events where they have to keep existing to keep those players who play them happy but they don't get to run roughshod over the other factions for reasons of keeping them happy as well.

    The gameplay reality would be Alliance and Horde players would be camping you when they could and making childish insults and vice versa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Then your in the wrong game. You really are. You want to have all faction leaders and factions destroyed by garrosh.. and then wow dies and you people have nothing left to bitch about. Think logically on this for a moment please, you seem like someone who has more common sense then the others here, so I'm guessing you know what your hoping for couldn't happen.

    Villians winning in video games doesn't mean they keep going. Take Kefka from ff6, who did achieve his goal, he did destroy the world, but the heroes in that game still pulled together and killed him in the end.

    Wow is not a lineal grimdark fantasy, its an mmorpg with progressive storyline.
    Hehe - saying that reminds me of a great Big Finish Doctor Who quote:

    "I keep telling them that it's useless to take over the universe. It too big to manage, and as a piece of real-estate it's valueless - as, by definition, you'd have no one to sell it to."

    On a serious note... yeah - that is the whole problem with "Progress through combat/competition" - because, when you run out of people to kill/defeat - you'll have nobody left to kill, and since all you know how to do is fight - you'll eventually start fighting eachother... and the whole cycle starts alllll over again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moon Blade View Post
    No, there is no "epilogue" to a story still being written.
    Oh sorry, you think I would want such thing now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
    Oh sorry, you think I would want such thing now?
    can you at least pretend to be coherent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moon Blade View Post
    can you at least pretend to be coherent?
    I dont know, can you?
    The common man is like a worm in the gut of a corpse, trapped inside a prison of cold flesh, helpless and uncaring, unaware even of the inevitability of its own doom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caerule View Post
    I really don't get sentiments like this. Yes, if you don't do anything, he has the power to kill you and a whole lot of people. So what do you do? You break his gates, smash your way into the very heart of his home, raid your way into his very seat of power, murder everything in your way, and end show him that those who would threaten your home will be crushed beneath your heel.

    I really don't see how the Alliance is seeing this victory as being victimized. The more powerful and domineering the opponent, the more you are the underdog, the greater the hero you become. The higher the peak of glory. Would you really feel like heroes if there was no imminent threat? If the Alliance never suffered losses, and you scored one victory after another?

    Enjoy your revenge. Revel in the might of the challenge before you. For gods sake stop lying on the ground like you're being punched in the nuts over and over.
    I lulzed...hard!!! Yeah we break his gate open...blah blah blah along with our enemy! We now help the very people who we were supposed to be fighting this entire time, because now, they decided that Garrosh was being mean to them. They are not replacing him because he was mean to the Alliance, but because he turned on THEM. You can say whatever you want, all I have to say is, Cata revolved around Thrall, Mop revolved around Garrosh...nuff said you cannot counter either of those points, they are fact. And based on that alone =fuck you ally.

    But hey, w/e I just paid for a faction xfer this week, I am now on the winning side, let the horde centric game continue please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozenbeef View Post
    Ogres are dumb and easily tricked/ defeated. Garrosh is smart and cunning and willing to do anything to win. an ogre would stop attacking you if you offered him food >.<
    /point behind Garrosh

    "Look! Is that an Alliance Horseman heading towards us!?"

    /Garrosh swivels head

    "WHAAT!?! HOW DARE THOSE ALLIANCE DOGS COME CHALLENGE THE MIGHT OF...."

    /club Garrosh's head over with a mallet
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    That's the ONLY reason you would post 9600 posts over 3 years: a mission of hate.

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