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    Quote Originally Posted by Neshezim View Post
    In one of the short stories that Blizzard has posted, it is cleary revealed what is comming in the next expansions.

    In "Blank Scroll" two goblins are heaving glimpse of the future, where Garrosh wins the war. This is what happens:

    "Stormwind fell. The orcs reigned supreme. For a time.
    The Dark Portal, left unguarded, was reclaimed by the Burning Legion. Horrors rose from the sea and found no champions left to stop them.
    Azeroth's mountains burned and melted. Its oceans boiled until nothing remained. And all was dark."


    Therefore all is confirmed. We will have Azshara expansion - the Dark Below (as "horrors from the sea")
    Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the Blank Scroll. Thnx for adding it. =)

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    Very well put together post Turmoill I could definitely see a Dark Below expansion coming next!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooper View Post
    Maybe, but you could just as easily have done this:



    Not that the two are mutually exclusive.
    They are unless you realize, that comming of the Burning Legion was a result of orcs (after Garrosh won) not guarding the Dark Portal. This will not happen since we are invading Orgrimmar and therefore the guard of the Dark Portal will remain intact.

    However, monsters of the seas will come nevertheless.

    Hence, next expansion is Azshara.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neshezim View Post
    They are unless you realize, that comming of the Burning Legion was a result of orcs (after Garrosh won) not guarding the Dark Portal. This will not happen since we are invading Orgrimmar and therefore the guard of the Dark Portal will remain intact.

    However, monsters of the seas will come nevertheless.

    Hence, next expansion is Azshara.
    No, it says that the Legion succeeds in reclaiming the Dark Portal because it is unguarded. There's nothing to suggest that the Legion won't make the attempt regardless of it being unguarded or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooper View Post
    That would be the absolutely wrong thing to do with Anduin. He's not supposed to be the frontline warrior, he's supposed to be the one that represents what everyone is fighting for. Making him into just another ultra-powerful combatant would be a waste. We already have plenty of Jainas and Velens and Varians and Thralls; Anduin is the only character like himself.

    edit: Anyway, the Velen thing also makes a big deal out of weapons and armor made from "otherworldly metal." So that's a point to traveling to some other planet, not sticking around on Azeroth.
    I was being silly, sir. You do make good points, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooper View Post
    No, it says that the Legion succeeds in reclaiming the Dark Portal because it is unguarded. There's nothing to suggest that the Legion won't make the attempt regardless of it being unguarded or not.
    It was left unguarded, because Garrosh destroyed the Alliance and with it Nethergarde Keep, which was built to keep watch over Dark Portal.
    Also the reason why Legion took the portal, was because without reinforcements to the Stairs of Destiny, where the Horde and Allaince to this day keep fighting the Legion's attacks, was overwhelmed and they managed to take it.

    It has nothing to do with Burning Legion coming.

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    you bring up some Good points OP. And for the people Saying That the prince wont become a paladin. You have to remember that in one of the books, I forget which but it dealt with the first war. That Paladins Started out as Priests, Who trained in the art of War too. Considering that he is already a priest, i can see the Trails of MoP or the next expansion Test him, to his limit, so he picks up a sword, and begins to learn to fight, but keeps his strong Connection to the light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turmoill View Post
    It was left unguarded, because Garrosh destroyed the Alliance and with it Nethergarde Keep, which was built to keep watch over Dark Portal.
    Also the reason why Legion took the portal, was because without reinforcements to the Stairs of Destiny, where the Horde and Allaince to this day keep fighting the Legion's attacks, was overwhelmed and they managed to take it.
    That's one possible explanation, but not the only one, and it's certainly not explicitly stated as happening that way in the story.

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    Anduin is a little older than the black prince. It is fair enough that he has more wisdom given his age.

    I don't doubt anduin will play a major role in the next burning legion expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mokoshne View Post
    Anduin is a little older than the black prince. It is fair enough that he has more wisdom given his age.
    Last time I checked Wrathion was 2 years old. =P

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    I wonder what happens if Anduin comes to power. will we see some kind of "Holy Stormwind Empire" thing? Having a priest on the throne will certainly be interesting.

    OP : Velen's visions don't have to happen exactly as Velen sees them. Anduin can be a wise leader and unite all factions without being a badass fighter.
    Last edited by Gamevizier; 2013-08-27 at 08:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banestalker View Post
    I wonder what happens if Anduin comes to power. will we see some kind of "Holy Stormwind Empire" thing? Having a priest on the throne will certainly be interesting.

    OP : Velen's visions don't have to happen exactly as Velen sees them. Anduin can be a wise leader and unite all factions without being a badass fighter.
    As a member of the clergy, Anduin would probably renounce his claim to the throne. Since there aren't any other members of the Wrynn family (that I'm aware of, anyway), the Nobles of Stormwind would probably get to choose the heir which, given their involvement in the story so far, would be a very bad thing, even if there wasn't outright civil war.

    If something happens to Varian before Anduin becomes a full-fledged priest, Anduin would probably ascend the throne and give up the priesthood.
    Last edited by Cooper; 2013-08-27 at 08:19 PM.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Turmoill View Post
    Okay, I'm not putting any of the "leaks" that's been going on aground for a while; but lets take step by step plausible reasons as to why Dark Below is gonna happen.

    Okay, 1st of there's always been a trademark registered, about 3 months before Blizzcon and it always came true. Not to mention there's been Blizz's attempts of "cover-ups" in the past expansions, like how they tried to cover-up goblins and worgen for Cata and pandaren for MoP.
    And remember, Dark Below was registered before the Diablo 3 expansion, and after that it was followed up by a bunch of random fake registrations.
    If Blizz will announce the new expansion during Blizzcon, which they will, than Dark Below is it.

    ...
    The Dark Below isn't trademarked but only an application for a trademark. Reaper of Souls on the other hand is a registered trademark and was registered the same day the website went online and there wasn't an application for it before that day in the online database which means that it was already trademarked in another country so that it can be trademarked immediately in other countries (same goes for Hearthstone).

    So the question is why does Blizzard hide all their other trademarks from public but not the one for WoW? Also the cover-up for Goblins and Worgen was something different because there were actual finished gamefiles of the Halloween masks in a PTR patch.

    With an application for a trademark you could argue that the new metal texture that is used in SoO is a hint for the next expansion because it's stored under xpack5 and called something like true horde or something. Also the fee for the application still isn't paid so that everyone else could still trademark The Dark Below if they make an application, pay the fee and give prove that they are working on something that will use the name.

    It could still be the name for the next expansion and Blizzard is just playing with us by registering a trademark in another country and make an application for it in the US and Europe to fool us or they want to use it as a red herring so that we get excited about an expansion about something dark below but in fact they are working on something completely different or just on what everyone before thought, a burning legion expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turmoill View Post
    Last time I checked Wrathion was 2 years old. =P
    well by dragon standard the difference between 2 years out of 12,000 and 16 years out of 12,000 is a difference of 0.1%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooper View Post
    As a member of the clergy, Anduin would probably renounce his claim to the throne. Since there aren't any other members of the Wrynn family (that I'm aware of, anyway), the Nobles of Stormwind would probably get to choose the heir which, given their involvement in the story so far, would be a very bad thing, even if there wasn't outright civil war.

    If something happens to Varian before Anduin becomes a full-fledged priest, Anduin would probably ascend the throne and give up the priesthood.
    alas it would've been cool if Stormwind became a holy empire ruled by clergy. :P then you would see inquisitors and some sort of "knights templar" faction taking control of everything and purging evil beings from their domain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordjust View Post
    The Dark Below isn't trademarked but only an application for a trademark. Reaper of Souls on the other hand is a registered trademark and was registered the same day the website went online and there wasn't an application for it before that day in the online database which means that it was already trademarked in another country so that it can be trademarked immediately in other countries (same goes for Hearthstone).

    So the question is why does Blizzard hide all their other trademarks from public but not the one for WoW? Also the cover-up for Goblins and Worgen was something different because there were actual finished gamefiles of the Halloween masks in a PTR patch.

    With an application for a trademark you could argue that the new metal texture that is used in SoO is a hint for the next expansion because it's stored under xpack5 and called something like true horde or something. Also the fee for the application still isn't paid so that everyone else could still trademark The Dark Below if they make an application, pay the fee and give prove that they are working on something that will use the name.

    It could still be the name for the next expansion and Blizzard is just playing with us by registering a trademark in another country and make an application for it in the US and Europe to fool us or they want to use it as a red herring so that we get excited about an expansion about something dark below but in fact they are working on something completely different or just on what everyone before thought, a burning legion expansion.
    The Dark Below is the next expansion, I'm 99% sure of it.

    It's not the burning legion, the one after the Dark Below has a 50% chance to be
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    Maybe that's the new cover-up to hide it. Keep the trademark non-registered officially to give the impression it's indeed fake. And just before the exp is announced and people have long forgot about it, BAM!

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    Anduin will probably be a paladin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banestalker View Post
    alas it would've been cool if Stormwind became a holy empire ruled by clergy. :P then you would see inquisitors and some sort of "knights templar" faction taking control of everything and purging evil beings from their domain.
    That's going into Dragon Age territory. =P

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    Quote Originally Posted by klorx View Post
    Anduin will probably be a paladin.
    He will be everything Arthas wasn't and more. I think thats how they are trying to play him.
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