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    I just hate that its 100% RNG. I don't mind long grinds if I can actually watch my progress and work toward something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fincher View Post
    That's not the issue here. All Roleplay Games, especially MMOs, have lots of Timesinks. What we debate here is whether randomness is better or set in stone grinds. In Op's Example, he has to collect 20 Artifacts at random. So he could get the title after 20 Artifacts, or still be collecting after 300. While in a predetermined Environment MMO he would have been asked to collect 200 or so Artifacts and then be done for certain.

    What I wanted to add is that Blizzard does help out your Randomness on earlier Levels and with time:
    Example A) Quest Items drop more frequently when time passes, so you won't be stuck in one Quest for 3 Hours.
    Example B) Earlier Dungeons and out of Content Raids are tuned so the Group can do them even if some people lack Gear.
    Example C) Blizzard offers very many alternatives to random Mounts and Achievments. For Example, if the Blue Stonedrake mount didn't drop after 150 times, and the purple Stonedrake mount got snatched by a camper yet again, you can get the red Stonedrake with pure Skill over the Glory of Cataclysm Hero Achievment OR you can buy the yellow Stonedrake on the AH. And if you don't like the randomness of the Seeker of Knowledge title, then why don't you get a nonrandom Title like Herald of Titans, Firelord, the Exalted etc.

    Complaining about not receiving a random reward is like complaining about not winning the lottery. You know full well that you may or may not get the reward if you go for Archeology.
    I'm speaking in general that time sinks needs to go. This isn't 1995 anymore. I don't care if they have been a staple of MMOs since time immemorial, it sucks and has to be done away with.

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    just add Mantid Artifact Sonic Locator type item for mogu and pandaren then you can work on w/e you missing rather then on everything
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    I actually spent a lot of time with archaeology and have most rares. I don't think it's BAD... but I think they absolutely could make it better. I'd rather more randomization on dig sites. Maybe some random world spawn artifacts that you can just stumble upon. Maybe some interesting solo scenarios if you locate a hidden cave. Indiana Jones amirite?

    Maybe one day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    I actually spent a lot of time with archaeology and have most rares. I don't think it's BAD... but I think they absolutely could make it better. I'd rather more randomization on dig sites. Maybe some random world spawn artifacts that you can just stumble upon. Maybe some interesting solo scenarios if you locate a hidden cave. Indiana Jones amirite?

    Maybe one day.
    Personally, I'd like more Old World dig sites/continent up. Like, say, North and South Kalimdor being split so each has four dig sites, North and South Kingdoms, etc.

    But, yes, an archy scenario, where you got to look a bunch of fragments or one item worth a ton of them, while being chased by mobs and avoiding traps, would be AWESOME.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telwar View Post
    Personally, I'd like more Old World dig sites/continent up. Like, say, North and South Kalimdor being split so each has four dig sites, North and South Kingdoms, etc.

    But, yes, an archy scenario, where you got to look a bunch of fragments or one item worth a ton of them, while being chased by mobs and avoiding traps, would be AWESOME.
    SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY

    seriously i would love to do indiana jones type scenario where you need to avoid traps and mobs chasing you
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    People think MoP archaeology is good? What in the actual hell? They completely neglected to add a mantid sonic locator for the other two races. The whole pristine artifacts was bad and I've gotten 35-40 solves of one artifact before getting 20 of another. I still have one achievement left for solving 20 bronze mirrors, but not only do I never get the artifact, I never get a Panda dig site. Every time I pop the map, sure enough, 3 mantid and 1 mogu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archimand View Post
    SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY

    seriously i would love to do indiana jones type scenario where you need to avoid traps and mobs chasing you
    Chase sequences are fine once in a while. To be constantly under "pressure" would suck though. Look at the IoT weekly scenario.

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    900ish troll solves during Cata. ~300ish troll solves through MoP. No sword.

    So, yea. When you have done 1k+ MoP solves without getting your title, then you can complain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SodiumChloride View Post
    Chase sequences are fine once in a while. To be constantly under "pressure" would suck though. Look at the IoT weekly scenario.
    what kind of presure this instance give?

    i always done it in 2 ways i either try to rush till the end on geared chars or i just collect the first room till 5min are over

    never felt any kind of presure O_o
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archimand View Post
    what kind of presure this instance give?

    i always done it in 2 ways i either try to rush till the end on geared chars or i just collect the first room till 5min are over

    never felt any kind of presure O_o
    I never liked the stupid timer. :/

    I rather take my time exploring the place rather than "gogogoggo" - pretty dumb that you get that even when there aren't any other players with you LOL.

    They should do it like your typical Indy movie. Mostly exploration at will, with sections of "action".

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    Usually when someone does not LIKE to do something...

    They DON'T do it.


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