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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom View Post
    Education seem far more important in other parts of the world. In the US, it's almost impossible to not get a high school diploma if you put in even one ounce of effort, and there are many colleges that will take you just for having a diploma.

    No idea what it's like in Australia, but if getting a high paying job just for the money is something you don't want to do, then why put so much effort in school? If it is something you want to do, then yes, studying would be more important in this scenario. There is no point in having a "successful" career if you don't even want to be there.
    In Australia we have this thing called the HSC, it's a big test at the end of high school, if you get a certain mark, there are courses you can do in University, I want to be a teacher, and the mark you need is 65.5, I'm aiming for this. If you finish high school, and get a bad mark on your exam, you pretty much ave nowhere to go, you will have a bad job for the rest of your life, therefore high school is the most important part of your life here in the land down under. And for all others, I am not depressed nor angry at anything, I'm a little confused at why this is the action he would take. I KNOW my dad is right, I'm not speaking against him.

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    Personally, I wouldnt have even taken you raiding to begin with. Whilst I dont agree with him kicking you. I would have found a replacement, benched you and told you your spot is not guaranteed when you return.

    In the end, its raiding. There will be another guild.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverStop View Post
    OP are you in like Phillips Exeter or another top notched private school? I don't know any public high school that requires 2 weeks of studying to do decent on final exams. Heck I'm in college and I raided the week before my finals and still got As and Bs.
    Public High School, as I said, I'm not studying for only 2 weeks, I said I'm taking two weeks off while doing my exams.

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    Education > Raiding
    But you're 16 and in high school I'm assuming, so I'm confused as to how you can find no time to raid. My brother juggled wow, work, college, and his social life very well. I did too, to some extent. He was a better student than I was, so I ended up losing more sleep. The price you pay for raiding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murderdoll View Post
    Personally, I wouldnt have even taken you raiding to begin with. Whilst I dont agree with him kicking you. I would have found a replacement, benched you and told you your spot is not guaranteed when you return.

    In the end, its raiding. There will be another guild.
    "Low Populated Server" easy to get people into raids, not easy to get into a raiding guild, I had been searching for a guild for 5 months prior to raiding with them. Please raid original post properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisisvacant View Post
    Just remember that the bricks you lay today in early education will be a house someday.

    The bricks you lay in World of Warcraft are nonexistant.
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    Chances are they didn't like you, and took the opporturnity to get rid of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SausageRawr View Post
    A little of a back-story: I'm a full time student, I'm 16 and just about to have yearly examinations in less than a week, my father is strict on me and my education and he's told me that I wont be able to play WoW for the next 2 weeks so I can study for these exams.


    So last night, I spoke to my guild leader, I've been in this raiding guild for about 2-3 months on a pretty low populated server. We've finished ToT on normal, killed Lei Shen most of the time, so we are extremely capable of doing SOO, my father spoke to me and gave me a lecture on the whole "Do you want to succeed in life?" and what not..., I realize that this is pretty important, so I told my guild leader that I would have to be gone for 2 weeks, I would be back before the new patch hits. There are many stand-by's in the guild, and have the gear and the skill to be able to raid ToT, we are clearing ToT every week doing Heroics at the same time, however I always have to be on despite my examinations within the next 2 weeks.

    We spoke on ventrilo, and he was pretty kind about it, straight up that I've been incapable these past few weeks and I need to have much better time management, but I think it's extrememly unfair that this much stress has to be carried on my shoulders... He kicked me from the guild, full stop, even after I told him all that's going on.

    Wanted to get your opinions on this...
    Guild management is not run by democracy.

    The GM can do what he/she wants for whatever reason he/she wants. You dont have to like it or agree with it of course, but that doesnt matter.

    16yo's are generally too unreliable/volatile to be relied on in a serious raiding guild. There will always be exceptions, but thats the general 'red flag rule'.

    And usually when people are kicked in situations like this the sad truth is (whether they told you or not or whether you know it or not) you probably arent that good, maybe they think you're quite bad. So they just took an opportunity to get rid of you. Of course people arent likely to say that outright, they'll say it nicely to soften the blow.

    If you came here expecting a circle jerk of sympathy im afraid you will probably be dissappointed.

    From the GM/guild perspective, they made a mistake by inviting you in the first place. This is why any GM/recruiter should be seeing red flags whenever considering people as young as 16 in a serious raiding guild. (Yes there are exceptions - but its a general rule that things often will not work out for obvious reasons).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SausageRawr View Post
    He kicked me from the guild, full stop, even after I told him all that's going on.
    What a jerky move. :\ My opinion, forget him/guild. I realize some take the game very seriously, but wtf....whether they like it or not, it's a game, not a job, and most employers would be able to understand someone needing to take a leave of absence in many cases. The fact that a guild leader in a game can't handle that? Prob some guy with no life who doesn't understand real life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiskra View Post
    Chances are they didn't like you, and took the opporturnity to get rid of you.
    Self Esteem +99.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SausageRawr View Post
    "Low Populated Server" easy to get people into raids, not easy to get into a raiding guild, I had been searching for a guild for 5 months prior to raiding with them. Please raid original post properly.
    I did and it doesnt change my post a single bit.

    Low pop server means raiding spots are often a premium - so are raiding guilds.

    You are clearly in a position where you cannot commit to a proper schedule and nor should you. When I was at school I couldnt.

    But from a former guild and raid leaders position, that would have been my response. I will keep you here, but you arent guaranteed your spot when you leave. If you dont like it, theres the door, but I cant wait around for you to come back from exams.

    Your choice is now, do your exams and come back and find a new guild or do what everyone else is doing, pay the 20 bucks and get off that server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TyrianFC View Post
    If you came here expecting a circle jerk of sympathy im afraid you will probably be dissappointed.
    Not at all, but I didn't expect such an asshole-ish tone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisisvacant View Post
    Just remember that the bricks you lay today in early education will be a house someday.

    The bricks you lay in World of Warcraft are nonexistant.
    This is by far the best advice. You will find another guild. Your education is far more important.

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    Honestly school is more important than Warcraft if a GM is not understanding of that then find another guild and look for one that works for you. If you play on US servers my guild on Quel'Dorei will always have a place for you.

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    I don't know how public education is in Australia, but my High school experience was more or less a complete waste of time, so I'd say your guild leader was a jerk, though not playing AT ALL for 2 weeks is overkill.

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    Smart move, dedication to your education is much more important. You won't even remember some prick kicking you from the guild by the time you graduate.
    Focus on your exams, and when you can play again find another guild (or potentially see if you can go back to that guild, depending on how you feel about it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisisvacant View Post
    Just remember that the bricks you lay today in early education will be a house someday.

    The bricks you lay in World of Warcraft are nonexistant.
    I like this statement and totally agree.

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    Well retiring you from the roster is reasonable, kicking you from the guild is a dick move though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SausageRawr View Post
    Self Esteem +99.

    Thanks.
    I'm not here to boost your self esteem. If they didn't like you, it's not necessarily a problem with you, rather the other way around. Tight knit friend circles tend to shun those who aren't a perfect fit, in one way or another. Guilds I've been in have kicked people because they've been too NICE, to the point it annoyed the wrong people. Getting kicked from a guild is such a wordly issue that you really shouldn't take overly seriously, because you'll be better off not to.
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    the guy did you a favor, go study for the exams and do them well
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