We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
Pretty much when blizzard changed his story half way in and make him do a 180
Simple, Garrosh was simply waiting for the opportune moment to strike and before this he made an example of whoever "failed" him to instill fear and respect in those around him by the example.
Keep in mind that after the Bomb was dropped he also ready to cut off your head. This same thing happens after Ashenvale with Garrosh and in the Kun'Lai Summit when he threatens the Blood Elf for "Reminding him that the Mogu was needed alive" to learn the location of the Divine Bell. He has manipulated the Horde this way. Now as a united group the other Members of the Horde have made it clear they will not live in fear of their own government he is keeping his old promise.
So again to sum up he hasn't changed. The only ones who have changed is the Horde who are finally tired of his bullshit.
it has all gone a bit mental.
like in the SoO cinematic where he kicks the heart into the vale (killing Zhu in the process) killing large amounts of neutral panderen and probably horde and Alliance alike in the process because.. errr.. he thought it would be fun at the time?
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Why can't people just say the very simple answer: Because of poor storytelling
Blizzard never knew what they wanted with Garrosh
They plan out the story multiple expansions ahead... They had MoP's broad strokes planned out since at least WotLK.
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Unlikely, Garrosh had started to consider Thrall too timid and pacifistic within his first week or two within the Horde
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Taran Zhu isnt dead, just wounded and captive
And he did it to 'awaken' the Heart and to lure the armies of the world
We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
I'm still trying to figure out where he became a barbarian in the first place.
As I wrote it in another thread prior:
Step 1) Garrosh: "Waaaaah! My father dishonored the Orcs!"
Step 2) Thrall: "No... in the end your father saved our race and is a hero"
Step 3) Garrosh: "really!? YAY!!!!"
Step 4) ????
Step 5) Garrosh: "DEATH TO THE ALLIANCE DOGS!!!!!"
The answer to this and your question is sadly probably very very simple... sloppy writing.
Its a jmup, but its one that makes sense
Garrosh is a Hellscream, which he means he has to be head strong and aggressive, only reason he wsnt in Nagrand was because of the legacy of his father. So once Thrall takes that burden off him guess whats left?
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He feelings toward the Alliance stem from them defeating and enslaving his people during the Second War. And they being the primary obstacle to the level of power/glory/prosperity he feels the Horde deserves
We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
He has had a pretty cool character development if you look at the entire warcraft series as a whole.
Some of his motivations in MoP however have left me wondering how they connect the dots as to what made him turn, to the darkside.
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I'm pretty sure the vast majority don't agree with him... There are by far more player orcs than NPC orcs, and at least half of the NPC orcs don't agree with him but are forced into servitude.
First of all, the Horde didn't turn on itself. Garrosh's view is not what the Horde is or has ever been about. He essentially seceded from the Horde and formed the "True Horde", which is a completely different organization. Secondly, Garrosh and his followers' powers are gained by exploiting Pandaria, such as the Sha as well as artifacts and resources taken from Pandaria. Their raw/base power is nowhere near what it currently is thanks to the power they've been imbued with.
If u look at all the psichological factors it's all a wonderful story. When one has a life of torment be it phisical of psichological or both no matter the age, as an adult there are 2 MAJOR ways one can end up:
1. a person that understands pain and wants the world to have no more of that (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitarianism) -> Thrall
2. a person that feels so broken in emotions, ego that he/she does everything to pump up his ego in a never-ending race (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopath); the problem with this one is that he/she might not even be aware of this and attempts to rationalize (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationa...ing_excuses)); and funny stuff happens when power is given to them be it leadership, guns or Gorehowl :P
So the way i personally see it is that Thrall supposed that Garrosh would act just like him because they shared a past of suffering. BIG MISTAKE (as Thrall says in the sound files).
The moment your character turns in the first breadcrumb Grummle trail quest in Kun'lai. That's the moment Garrosh, sitting back in Orgrimmar, turns evil.
Seriously though, I think blizzard "intended" to give him a somewhat natural story progression into being a dictator... though at the end of Cataclysm, he was on the path to being a somewhat honorable character, as noted in that quest.
Honestly, if they wanted to drive Garrosh into being more of an "understandable" madman... they should have had the Alliance forces start to majorly curbstomp the horde throughout Azeroth or have the Alliance act in some instance of actual aggression, giving Garrosh an actual NEED to adopt some "desperate measures."
Anyway, MoP was not originally intended to be the xpac after Cataclysm. I think it's fairly likely that Blizz intended to "round out" Garrosh over the course of whatever expansion would come in the middle to give him a slower decent into "villainhood," if they even intended to progress along that path at all.
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