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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Lynneiah View Post
    Rule of thumb in storytelling: Do not assume someone is dead until you see a corpse, or a severed head. If they are breathing in the last shot you see of them, they survived.
    I actually called this on facebook when I saw the trailer.


    That said, can I just say how stupid Garrosh AND Taran Zhu were in that trailer? Why confront a whole Kor'kron regiment on your own? Why not bring the ENTIRE Shado-Pan? Why not ask the Alliance to show up as well?
    And in case of Garrosh, why not ignore him while your Kor'kron guards dogpile him? Why engage him in single combat? Because he insulted your daddy? Dude needs anger management training. (by which I mean an axe to the brains)
    Am pretty sure when the camera pulls out you see Orcs and Pandaren fighting.

    Also, perhaps some Shado-Pan occupied the rest of the Kork'ron to buy Taran Zhu time to attack him, a distraction attack. The Korkron wouldnt defend Garrosh as they know he can handle himself, and the Shado-Pan htink of Taran Zhu as their best warrior, so won't think he needs much support. Zhu had never seen Garrosh in action before, so probably though he could take him, the speech confirms this a little. As for single combat on Garrosh's behalf? He is many things, but he is not a coward, he still has some honour in his mind regarding duels and fighting a worthy foe one on one.

    All in all, makes sense to me.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlrunner View Post
    Am pretty sure when the camera pulls out you see Orcs and Pandaren fighting.

    Also, perhaps some Shado-Pan occupied the rest of the Kork'ron to buy Taran Zhu time to attack him, a distraction attack. The Korkron wouldnt defend Garrosh as they know he can handle himself, and the Shado-Pan htink of Taran Zhu as their best warrior, so won't think he needs much support. Zhu had never seen Garrosh in action before, so probably though he could take him, the speech confirms this a little. As for single combat on Garrosh's behalf? He is many things, but he is not a coward, he still has some honour in his mind regarding duels and fighting a worthy foe one on one.

    All in all, makes sense to me.
    I must've missed the background pandas, then. I take that bit back.

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    Hey sweet, spoiler title thanks.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Lynneiah View Post
    Rule of thumb in storytelling: Do not assume someone is dead until you see a corpse, or a severed head. If they are breathing in the last shot you see of them, they survived.
    I actually called this on facebook when I saw the trailer.


    That said, can I just say how stupid Garrosh AND Taran Zhu were in that trailer? Why confront a whole Kor'kron regiment on your own? Why not bring the ENTIRE Shado-Pan? Why not ask the Alliance to show up as well?
    And in case of Garrosh, why not ignore him while your Kor'kron guards dogpile him? Why engage him in single combat? Because he insulted your daddy? Dude needs anger management training. (by which I mean an axe to the brains)
    In WoW it seems like the heroes are the ones that matter. Taran Zhu could have waded through all the Kor'kron spin kicking himself into some sort of gore hurricane (gorricane?) without taking a scratch. Meanwhile, Garrosh could have walked over and plomped his heart thingy into the titan well with all the shado pan spin kicking him in the eyes, face, neck, chest and head area. Honestly, they should have done a back and forth of Taran spin kicking all the Kor'Kron while Garrosh tried to stop him as he attempted to get the heart to the well. Unfortunately, that would be a pain in the ass to animate, so we get a one on one.

  5. #25
    5.4 Trailer was merely a setback!

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    Gorehowl was merely a setback!

  7. #27
    I think he did it to send a message.

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    Sooooooo..

    He couldn't kill Varian in wolfheart.
    He couldn't kill vol'jin himself he needed an assassin to attempt it
    He couldn't kill Jaina even with a bomb
    He couldn't kill Taran zhu even with a strike to the gut
    He couldn't kill a bunch of quillboars in mulgore
    And he couldn't kill Cairne, as he fanboys seem to keep pushing how he didn't do it himself it was magatha's poison that did it.


    ha.. haha.. HAHAHA!

    Now lets look at Groms check list.

    He killed countless draenei,
    He killed countless humans.
    He killed countless night elves.
    He killed Cenarius a demi god.
    He killed the demon lord that cursed his race.

    See where i'm going with this. Garrosh can't even stand in ceremony to his own fathers killing spree, he isn't worthy of the title hellscream.
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  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    See where i'm going with this. Garrosh can't even stand in ceremony to his own fathers killing spree, he isn't worthy of the title hellscream.
    Hellscream is not a title, its a surname =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizarro55 View Post
    Hellscream is not a title, its a surname =)
    You're right well call him douchebag.

    - Garrosh not his dad.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlrunner View Post
    I wouldn't say dumb, just monumentally arrogant.

    Why kill your enemies, when you can leave them alive, in agony, and powerless to stop you from doing what you set out to do? No point being victorious if your enemies don't know you are.
    While it certainly has it's dramatic appeal, leaving your enemies alive is more the antics of a Saturday morning cartoon villain. A proper Warlord would recognize the potential for this to backfire and simply kill the enemy when given the chance. An excellent Warlord would take this one step further and eliminate every family member and friend within reasonable distance, so as to prevent any vengeful kin in the future

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Strong is plot armor with this one.

    I guess Sylvanas shared some of her plot armor with Taran Zhu. Only a minuscule fraction though.



    But that was enough to do the job.
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    Well it's good to see the keyboard activists in full effect. Doing the laziest, most asinine thing they could think of off the top of their heads and calling it justice while making no difference.
    Quote Originally Posted by C9H20
    Blizzard effectively wants to have its cake and eat it too by pretending to have this groundbreaking war in a faction capital while at the same time being completely unwilling to portray logical consequences of such an event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizarro55 View Post
    Hellscream is not a title, its a surname =)
    actually with orcs, any orc with a last name is given because of an act in that families bloodline that gave the name, like an honorary title, one that is either earned by them, or passed onto the next generation. So the name hellscream obviously came from Groms bloodline as an honorary name, maybe he even got the title himself.
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  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    And he couldn't kill Cairne, as he fanboys seem to keep pushing how he didn't do it himself it was magatha's poison that did it.
    Wasn't Cairne winning that fight until the poison kicked in anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynneiah View Post
    Wasn't Cairne winning that fight until the poison kicked in anyway?
    Cairne was winning, but Garrosh wasn't defeated, there was still a chance he'd manage to win. Wouldn't be the first time an underdog in a fantasy duel managed to pull out a last second victory. I'm not saying he WOULD have won, but it's not 100% certain either.

    As for why Taran Zhu went alone, I can only guess that he didn't have time to get reinforcements. If he'd waited, Garrosh would have just done this thing completely unopposed.
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    Will he ever finally die?

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    Will he be made of lava? Will he replace Garrosh because there must always be a jackhole?

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    Ugh... just when I thought things were getting good. How damn hard is it to lop off a person's head, rip open his torso, and eat his goddamn heart!
    Last edited by Rathnor The Flesher; 2013-08-30 at 01:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Sooooooo..

    He couldn't kill Varian in wolfheart.
    He couldn't kill vol'jin himself he needed an assassin to attempt it
    He couldn't kill Jaina even with a bomb
    He couldn't kill Taran zhu even with a strike to the gut
    He couldn't kill a bunch of quillboars in mulgore
    And he couldn't kill Cairne, as he fanboys seem to keep pushing how he didn't do it himself it was magatha's poison that did it.
    I'm guessing Garrosh, now empowered [or not], could defeat Varian, Vol'Jin, Jaina, Taran, Quilboars, Anduin and Cairne, but he simply didn't.

    He could but he's a dumb orc.

  20. #40
    i want to have a good long talk with garrosh
    before you walk away like a badass
    make sure they're bloody dead
    or at least about to be caught in an explosion (the Zaeed clause)
    If you are particularly bold, you could use a Shiny Ditto. Do keep in mind though, this will infuriate your opponents due to Ditto's beauty. Please do not use Shiny Ditto. You have been warned.

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