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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Mercury View Post
    Oh i love these useless plot armor arguments. Let me try.

    Cairne didn't kill Garrosh. Plot Armor. Maybe because the only reason people live or die is to further a plot?

    Anyways if you read up on the fight it is fairly clear he was losing badly till the poison kicked in.
    Cairne's fate was decided as soon as magatha put the poison on the axe. Whether garrosh was losing is irrelevant, all garrosh needed to do was land a blow on cairne and hes dead. It's not plot armor, it was the poison.

    Jaina survived the mana bomb but rhonin didn't? Even though both were in theramore at the time? - plot armor

    Many people have been assassinated in azeroth, but I guess vol'jin is immune to assassination? - plot armor

    That's plot armor.

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    seems like the work of the council of tirisfal honestly, gorehowl's replacement by thrall in order to get him captured by varian in outland really seems strange considering it was still post cata, i doubt taran zhu or any other pandaren for that matter would have expected such a reaction from wrathion's poison used prior to the war of ancients expect a quick reaction from the legion no doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    Cairne's fate was decided as soon as magatha put the poison on the axe. Whether garrosh was losing is irrelevant, all garrosh needed to do was land a blow on cairne and hes dead. It's not plot armor, it was the poison.

    Jaina survived the mana bomb but rhonin didn't? Even though both were in theramore at the time? - plot armor

    Many people have been assassinated in azeroth, but I guess vol'jin is immune to assassination? - plot armor

    That's plot armor.


    Garrosh survived getting his ass kicked by Varian multiple times? Plot armor.



    Sylvanas has her stupid val'kyr things to resurrect her whenever something bad happens to her? Plot armor.



    Sylvanas never has to face the consequences of anything she does because the Argent Crusade and Ebon Blade conveniently ignore her while she does Lich Queen v2. stuff in their backyard? Plot armor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    Garrosh survived getting his ass kicked by Varian multiple times? Plot armor.



    Sylvanas has her stupid val'kyr things to resurrect her whenever something bad happens to her? Plot armor.



    Sylvanas never has to face the consequences of anything she does because the Argent Crusade and Ebon Blade conveniently ignore her while she does Lich Queen v2. stuff in their backyard? Plot armor.
    I don't think varian ever had the intent of killing garrosh. However, the other two examples are sound, the val'kyr stuff is idiotic.

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    I'm surprised Garrosh as even a shred of honor left in him.

    Sure, I'll give him brownie points for being disgusted by what his general did in the Stonetalon Peaks questline (killing civilians and children), as well as calling out Sylvanas as her Lich King-esque methods, but I think up to this point, Garrosh would not be so keen about formalities of honor or morality unless they affect him. What I mean is when Garrosh was once appauled by children being killed, he'd probably be advocating it now, or even enforcing it.

    And if Garrosh is being "corrupted" by Pride, I'm surprised he's made NO mention about his Father being weak and such.

    "What about your Father, Garrosh?"
    "What about him?
    "Grom Hellscream sacrificed everything he was to save not only the Horde, but all of Azeroth, too! Does he mean nothing to you?"
    "Hah! My Father was a weakling, and a fool! He drank the blood of demons to give him power, and though it did work for awhile, he damned the Horde to becoming slaves to demons! I am no slave to the power I wield. The Sha do not control me... I control THEM! I will lead the Horde - MY Horde - to their destiny, and neither you, the Alliance, traitors of the Horde, the Sha, or anyone will stop me! The whole of Azeroth will be mine to rule, or be crushed underfoot!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    I don't think varian ever had the intent of killing garrosh. However, the other two examples are sound, the val'kyr stuff is idiotic.
    Pretty sure he did intend to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Sooooooo..

    He couldn't kill Varian in wolfheart.
    He couldn't kill vol'jin himself he needed an assassin to attempt it
    He couldn't kill Jaina even with a bomb
    He couldn't kill Taran zhu even with a strike to the gut
    He couldn't kill a bunch of quillboars in mulgore
    And he couldn't kill Cairne, as he fanboys seem to keep pushing how he didn't do it himself it was magatha's poison that did it.


    ha.. haha.. HAHAHA!

    Now lets look at Groms check list.

    He killed countless draenei,
    He killed countless humans.
    He killed countless night elves.
    He killed Cenarius a demi god.
    He killed the demon lord that cursed his race.

    See where i'm going with this. Garrosh can't even stand in ceremony to his own fathers killing spree, he isn't worthy of the title hellscream.
    He wanted to kill Varian but failed.
    He never wanted to kill Vol'jin himself.
    He was aiming for Theramore, not Jaina.
    He WANTED Taran Zhu to live to tell people what happened.
    He doesn't give a shit about Mulgore.
    As a warrior that could stand his ground against Thrall using the elements, I believe Christie Golden went full retard in making Cairne out to be stronger. That said, Garrosh never wanted to kill Cairne either.
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