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    Fury Warrior 5.4 BiS list!

    This is BiS list which i made myself just by looking at SoO loot table. Also added weapon for Arms. Any experienced warriors out there who is reading this, post replay about things i should change and elaborate why is that Thnx!



    Head: Helmet of the Prehistoric Marauder (tier) - Thok the Bloodthirsty

    Neck: Malkorok's Tainted Dog Tags - Malkorok

    Shoulders: Tusks of Mannoroth - Garrosh Hellscream

    Cloak: Legendary

    Chest: Battleplate of the Prehistoric Marauder (tier) - Sha of Pride

    Wrist: Bracers of Blind Hatred - Norushen

    Gloves: Gauntlets of the Prehistoric Marauder (tier) - General Nazgrim

    Waist: Demolisher's Reinforced Belt - Iron Juggernaut

    Legs: Legplates of the Prehistoric Marauder (tier) - Paragons of the Klaxxi

    Feet: Wolf-Rider Spurs - Kor'kron Dark Shaman

    Ring 1: Sorrowpath Signet - The Fallen Protectors

    Ring 2: Seal of the Forgotten Kings - Spoils of Pandaria

    Trinket 1: Evil Eye of Galakras - Galakras

    Trinket 2: Skeer's Bloodsoaked Talisman - Paragons of the Klaxxi

    Weapon Fury: Malkorok's Skullcleaver x2 - Malkorok

    Weapon Arms: Greatsword of Pride's Fall - Sha of Pride or Xal'atoh, Desecrated Image of Gorehowl - Garrosh Hellscream

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    Quick and dirty from what I have found in SimC:

    SMF:

    head=helmet_of_the_prehistoric_marauder,id=99418,gems=capacitive_primal_160exp_160crit_180 str
    neck=malkoroks_tainted_dog_tags,id=105566
    shoulders=tusks_of_mannoroth,id=105642,gems=80str_160crit_160exp_160crit_160exp_160crit_18 0str,enchant=200str_100crit
    back=gonglu_strength_of_xuen,id=102249,upgrade=2,gems=160exp_160crit_60str,enchant=180crit ,reforge=haste_hit
    chest=battleplate_of_the_prehistoric_marauder,id=99411,gems=160exp_160crit_160exp_160crit_ 160exp_160crit_180str,enchant=80all,reforge=haste_crit
    wrists=bracers_of_blind_hatred,id=105456,gems=320crit,enchant=180str
    hands=gauntlets_of_the_prehistoric_marauder,id=99412,gems=80str_160crit_80str_160crit_360c rit_120str,enchant=170str,addon=synapse_springs_ii,reforge=hit_mastery
    waist=ashen_wall_girdle,id=105533,gems=160exp_160crit_160crit_160hit_320crit_120str,reforg e=hit_crit
    legs=legplates_of_the_prehistoric_marauder,id=99413,gems=320crit_320crit_120str,enchant=28 5str_165crit,reforge=haste_mastery
    feet=greaves_of_sublime_superiority,id=105478,gems=320crit,enchant=140mastery,reforge=hit_ mastery
    finger1=devilfang_band,id=105611,gems=320crit,reforge=exp_crit
    finger2=seal_of_the_forgotten_kings,id=105589,gems=320crit,reforge=haste_hit
    trinket1=skeers_bloodsoaked_talisman,id=105632
    trinket2=thoks_tail_tip,id=105609
    main_hand=hellscreams_doomblade,id=105691,gems=80str_160crit_80str_160crit_120str,enchant= dancing_steel,reforge=exp_crit
    off_hand=hellscreams_doomblade,id=105691,gems=80str_160crit_80str_160crit_120str,enchant=d ancing_steel,reforge=exp_crit


    Arms:

    head=helmet_of_the_prehistoric_marauder,id=99418,gems=capacitive_primal_160exp_160crit_180 str
    neck=malkoroks_tainted_dog_tags,id=105566
    shoulders=tusks_of_mannoroth,id=105642,gems=160exp_160crit_160exp_160crit_160exp_160crit_1 80str,enchant=200str_100crit
    back=gonglu_strength_of_xuen,id=102249,upgrade=2,gems=160exp_160crit_60str,enchant=180crit ,reforge=haste_hit
    chest=battleplate_of_the_prehistoric_marauder,id=99411,gems=160exp_160crit_160exp_160crit_ 160exp_160crit_180str,enchant=80all,reforge=haste_crit
    wrists=bracers_of_blind_hatred,id=105456,gems=320crit,enchant=180str
    hands=gauntlets_of_the_prehistoric_marauder,id=99412,gems=160exp_160crit_160exp_160crit_36 0crit_120str,enchant=170str,addon=synapse_springs_ii,reforge=hit_mastery
    waist=ashen_wall_girdle,id=105533,gems=160exp_160crit_160crit_160hit_320crit_120str,reforg e=hit_crit
    legs=legplates_of_the_prehistoric_marauder,id=99413,gems=320crit_320crit_120str,enchant=28 5str_165crit,reforge=haste_mastery
    feet=greaves_of_sublime_superiority,id=105478,gems=320crit,enchant=140mastery,reforge=hit_ mastery
    finger1=devilfang_band,id=105611,gems=320crit,reforge=exp_crit
    finger2=seal_of_the_forgotten_kings,id=105589,gems=320crit,reforge=haste_hit
    trinket1=skeers_bloodsoaked_talisman,id=105632
    trinket2=thoks_tail_tip,id=105609
    main_hand=hellscreams_decapitator,id=105692,gems=80str_160crit_80str_160crit_120str,enchan t=dancing_steel

    TG:
    head=helmet_of_the_prehistoric_marauder,id=99418,gems=capacitive_primal_160exp_160crit_180 str
    neck=malkoroks_tainted_dog_tags,id=105566
    shoulders=tusks_of_mannoroth,id=105642,gems=160exp_160crit_160exp_160crit_160exp_160crit_1 80str,enchant=200str_100crit
    back=gonglu_strength_of_xuen,id=102249,upgrade=2,gems=160exp_160crit_60str,enchant=180crit ,reforge=haste_hit
    chest=battleplate_of_the_prehistoric_marauder,id=99411,gems=160exp_160crit_160exp_160crit_ 160exp_160crit_180str,enchant=80all,reforge=haste_crit
    wrists=bracers_of_blind_hatred,id=105456,gems=320crit,enchant=180str
    hands=gauntlets_of_the_prehistoric_marauder,id=99412,gems=160exp_160crit_160exp_160crit_36 0crit_120str,enchant=170str,addon=synapse_springs_ii,reforge=hit_mastery
    waist=ashen_wall_girdle,id=105533,gems=160exp_160crit_160crit_160hit_320crit_120str,reforg e=hit_crit
    legs=legplates_of_the_prehistoric_marauder,id=99413,gems=320crit_320crit_120str,enchant=28 5str_165crit,reforge=haste_mastery
    feet=greaves_of_sublime_superiority,id=105478,gems=320crit,enchant=140mastery,reforge=hit_ mastery
    finger1=devilfang_band,id=105611,gems=320crit,reforge=exp_crit
    finger2=seal_of_the_forgotten_kings,id=105589,gems=320crit,reforge=haste_hit
    trinket1=skeers_bloodsoaked_talisman,id=105632
    trinket2=thoks_tail_tip,id=105609
    main_hand=hellscreams_decapitator,id=105692,gems=80str_160crit_80str_160crit_120str,enchan t=dancing_steel,reforge=haste_mastery
    off_hand=hellscreams_decapitator,id=105692,gems=80str_160crit_80str_160crit_120str,enchant =dancing_steel,reforge=haste_m

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    I don't understand why people are so fussed about finding the "BiS list" for next patch, it will take months until anyone is close to full BiS. It's more important to know what items is an upgrade from what you have, and if it's a bigger upgrade for you or your other plate users.

    The lists in Sim-c is the closest thing we have to a BiS list at this moment, but it can most likely be optimized. To mention one thing that ain't on that list is the CD-R trinket for TG-Fury, it's Simed to be quite a big single target upgrade, compared to Skeers.
    The lists will be better the more people work on them, but they are useless at this point in time. By the time they are useful, they will be optimal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warriorsarri View Post
    I don't understand why people are so fussed about finding the "BiS list" for next patch, it will take months until anyone is close to full BiS. It's more important to know what items is an upgrade from what you have, and if it's a bigger upgrade for you or your other plate users.

    The lists in Sim-c is the closest thing we have to a BiS list at this moment, but it can most likely be optimized. To mention one thing that ain't on that list is the CD-R trinket for TG-Fury, it's Simed to be quite a big single target upgrade, compared to Skeers.
    The lists will be better the more people work on them, but they are useless at this point in time. By the time they are useful, they will be optimal.
    BiS is nice to have as a guidline for progression gearing. I don't want to take gear from other str classes when I can get a better setup. Not saying I won't take different setups, but having a BiS list gives us a good map.

    And besides, its fun to do

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    Just my personal opinion, but I find it more useful to make an "upgrade path", where I list every item that is an upgrade, and then compare my results with what the other classes has come up with. If the lists ain't too alike, we can make a decision based on that. If they are quite alike, we can discuss our way to a solution (or let our Master Looter decide, whichever is more effective).

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    Have to agree with sarri here, a BiS list is next to pointless seeing as chances are even if you clear from day 1 you won't have a BiS set of gear.

    Plus this is the last tier, after progress who really minds whether they have BiS or not? I personally don't care if levelling next xpac takes 5 seconds longer.

    inb4 someone mentions ranks /lol.

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    I'm assuming its wrong that an hierloom is BIS on simcraft?

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    SimC doesn't have upgrades yet, so since the ilevel of the hierlooms is higher than the other weapons, no.

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    are the Tusks of Mannoroth the prefered non-tier slot?
    There also seems to be a decent non-tier chest, with the tier chest not having the best stats
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    Shoulders as off-piece when the tier chest has terribad itemization seems suspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjsctt View Post
    Quick and dirty from what I have found in SimC:
    You're using an old version, download the newest one (released a few days ago)

    SMF
    head=helmet_of_the_prehistoric_marauder,id=99418,upgrade=2,gems=capacitive_primal_160exp_1 60crit_180str
    neck=malkoroks_tainted_dog_tags,id=105566,upgrade=2
    shoulders=tusks_of_mannoroth,id=105642,upgrade=2,gems=80str_160crit_160exp_160crit_160exp_ 160crit_180str,enchant=200str_100crit
    back=gonglu_strength_of_xuen,id=102249,upgrade=2,gems=160exp_160crit_60str,enchant=180crit ,reforge=haste_hit
    chest=battleplate_of_the_prehistoric_marauder,id=99411,upgrade=2,gems=160exp_160crit_160ex p_160crit_160exp_160crit_180str,enchant=80all,reforge=haste_crit
    wrists=bracers_of_blind_hatred,id=105456,upgrade=2,gems=320crit,enchant=180str
    hands=gauntlets_of_the_prehistoric_marauder,id=99412,upgrade=2,gems=80str_160crit_80str_16 0crit_320crit_120str,enchant=170str,addon=synapse_springs_ii,reforge=hit_mastery
    waist=ashen_wall_girdle,id=105533,upgrade=2,gems=160exp_160crit_160crit_160hit_320crit_120 str,reforge=hit_crit
    legs=legplates_of_the_prehistoric_marauder,id=99413,upgrade=2,gems=320crit_320crit_120str, enchant=285str_165crit,reforge=haste_mastery
    feet=wolfrider_spurs,id=105531,upgrade=2,gems=320crit_60crit,enchant=140mastery,reforge=ha ste_mastery
    finger1=devilfang_band,id=105611,upgrade=2,gems=320crit,reforge=exp_crit
    finger2=seal_of_the_forgotten_kings,id=105589,upgrade=2,gems=320crit,reforge=haste_mastery
    trinket1=skeers_bloodsoaked_talisman,id=105632,upgrade=2
    trinket2=thoks_tail_tip,id=105609,upgrade=2
    main_hand=malkoroks_skullcleaver,id=105567,upgrade=2,gems=160exp_160crit_60str,enchant=dan cing_steel,reforge=hit_mastery
    off_hand=malkoroks_skullcleaver,id=105567,upgrade=2,gems=160exp_160crit_60str,enchant=danc ing_steel,reforge=hit_mastery

    TG:
    head=helmet_of_the_prehistoric_marauder,id=99418,gems=capacitive_primal_160exp_160crit_180 str,upgrade=2
    neck=malkoroks_tainted_dog_tags,id=105566,upgrade=2
    shoulders=tusks_of_mannoroth,id=105642,gems=80str_160crit_160exp_160crit_160exp_160crit_18 0str,enchant=200str_100crit,upgrade=2
    back=gonglu_strength_of_xuen,id=102249,upgrade=2,gems=160exp_160crit_60str,enchant=180crit ,reforge=haste_hit,upgrade=2
    chest=battleplate_of_the_prehistoric_marauder,id=99411,gems=160exp_160crit_160exp_160crit_ 160exp_160crit_180str,enchant=80all,reforge=haste_crit,upgrade=2
    wrists=bracers_of_blind_hatred,id=105456,gems=320crit,enchant=180str,upgrade=2
    hands=gauntlets_of_the_prehistoric_marauder,id=99412,gems=80str_160crit_80str_160crit_320c rit_120str,enchant=170str,addon=synapse_springs_ii,reforge=hit_mastery,upgrade=2
    waist=ashen_wall_girdle,id=105533,gems=160exp_160crit_160crit_160hit_320crit_120str,reforg e=hit_crit,upgrade=2
    legs=legplates_of_the_prehistoric_marauder,id=99413,gems=320crit_320crit_120str,enchant=28 5str_165crit,reforge=haste_mastery,upgrade=2
    feet=greaves_of_sublime_superiority,id=105478,gems=320crit,enchant=140mastery,reforge=hit_ mastery,upgrade=2
    finger1=devilfang_band,id=105611,gems=320crit,reforge=exp_crit,upgrade=2
    finger2=seal_of_the_forgotten_kings,id=105589,gems=320crit,reforge=haste_mastery,upgrade=2
    trinket1=skeers_bloodsoaked_talisman,id=105632,upgrade=2
    trinket2=thoks_tail_tip,id=105609,upgrade=2
    main_hand=xalatoh_desecrated_image_of_gorehowl,id=105644,gems=160exp_160crit_60str,enchant =dancing_steel,upgrade=2
    off_hand=xalatoh_desecrated_image_of_gorehowl,id=105644,gems=160exp_160crit_60str,enchant= dancing_steel,upgrade=2

    Arms:
    head=helmet_of_the_prehistoric_marauder,id=99418,gems=capacitive_primal_160exp_160crit_180 str,upgrade=2
    neck=malkoroks_tainted_dog_tags,id=105566,reforge=mastery_hit,upgrade=2
    shoulders=tusks_of_mannoroth,id=105642,gems=160exp_160crit_160exp_160crit_160exp_160crit_1 80str,enchant=200str_100crit,reforge=mastery_hit,upgrade=2
    back=gonglu_strength_of_xuen,id=102249,upgrade=2,gems=160exp_160crit_60str,enchant=180crit ,reforge=haste_hit,upgrade=2
    chest=chestplate_of_congealed_corrosion,id=105412,gems=160exp_160crit_320crit_160hit_160cr it_180str,enchant=80all,upgrade=2
    wrists=bracers_of_blind_hatred,id=105456,gems=320crit,enchant=180str,upgrade=2
    hands=tarcoated_gauntlets,id=105511,gems=160exp_160crit_320crit_320crit_120str,enchant=170 str,addon=synapse_springs_ii,upgrade=2
    waist=ashen_wall_girdle,id=105533,gems=160exp_160crit_160crit_160hit_320crit_120str,reforg e=mastery_crit,upgrade=2
    legs=legplates_of_the_prehistoric_marauder,id=99413,gems=320crit_320crit_120str,enchant=28 5str_165crit,upgrade=2
    feet=wolfrider_spurs,id=105531,gems=320crit_60crit,enchant=140mastery,upgrade=2
    finger1=devilfang_band,id=105611,gems=320crit,reforge=exp_crit,upgrade=2
    finger2=seal_of_the_forgotten_kings,id=105589,gems=320crit,reforge=haste_exp,upgrade=2
    trinket1=skeers_bloodsoaked_talisman,id=105632,upgrade=2
    trinket2=thoks_tail_tip,id=105609,upgrade=2
    main_hand=xalatoh_desecrated_image_of_gorehowl,id=105644,gems=80str_160crit_60str,enchant= dancing_steel,upgrade=2

    The CDR trinket is better than Skeers, and Storm bolt is better than bloodbath for tg/smf, I'll update it again sometime soon.

    The only major differences in tg/smf are weapon selection and how to maintain exp/hit caps. As SMF has to deal with extra hit from the weapons, it was slightly better to swap the boots out and do some different reforging.

    Arms will only use 2 piece tier, the 4 set bonus just isn't good for arms.

    Using chest offset leads to less exp/crit gems. Think of a exp/crit gem as actually being mastery/crit, as any additional expertise gained via gems is reforged into mastery as long as you are able to reforge the expertise off. The difference was extremely minor, like... 20 dps.
    Last edited by CollisionTD; 2013-08-31 at 05:20 AM.

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    from the looks of it, it would be offpiece chest

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    and Storm bolt is better than bloodbath for tg/smf
    Are you talking about timing SB before your CS window to where it hits the target during it? Or filling a global in the CS w/ the SB and 2-3RB? And would this only be optimal w/ a CD-R trinket equipped?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adsertif View Post
    Are you talking about timing SB before your CS window to where it hits the target during it? Or filling a global in the CS w/ the SB and 2-3RB? And would this only be optimal w/ a CD-R trinket equipped?
    I gave up timing SB pre-CS, it only works reliably on mega-large hitboxes. It's only significantly better than bloodbath if combined with the CDR trinket. Without CDR, it's basically equal to bloodbath.

    Filling a global in the CS with the SB, 2 RB and a BT.

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    The chest of Dark Shamans will be the non-set item to go for, since the shoulders drops of Garrosh (so whats the point).

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    Quote Originally Posted by CollisionTD View Post
    I gave up timing SB pre-CS, it only works reliably on mega-large hitboxes. It's only significantly better than bloodbath if combined with the CDR trinket. Without CDR, it's basically equal to bloodbath.

    Filling a global in the CS with the SB, 2 RB and a BT.
    How about a CS filled with SB and 3 RBs, the third RB stack gained through BR?

    We could do this every second CS cycle and given the new gear, it should be unlikely that we still need BR to complete a CS rotation.

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    You could, once every time it is up obviously, but it would depend on your specific gear. I personally will be saving the BzR, because RNG and I aren't friends.
    Even with Gaze up, sitting at 45ish% crit I STILL manage to get 3 back to back Bloodthirsts not crit. Not to mention random parries and the like.
    Last edited by Archimtiros; 2013-08-31 at 10:13 AM.

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    iLvl 552 4p (shoulder offpiece tortos', AMP+CDR trinket) is about 5%+ for me on several 100mil+ damage tests, on most good openers I got over 1mil execute crits.
    imo CDR trinket is better than the crappy Skeer trinket, single target and AOE.

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