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    Quote Originally Posted by Tauror View Post
    Garrosh and kids. This is the guy that kidnapped Magnataur babies to force their dads to attack Night Elves on Ashenvale.

    So, if you keep yelling about "inconsistencies", you aren't looking well enough. Garrosh has been a racist sociopathic douche over and over again on the comics and novels.

    Unfortunately, I don't have the time for it, but we need a list of all the stuff that Garrosh done, in-game and on the rest of Warcraft media.
    Yeah, magnataur babies are surely helpless and innocent. Also its not like we kill some of them during one quest. Garrush Y U SO EVUL !?!?!?!

    Also its not like we abducted magnataur only to kill him for our amusement in ToC. Thank god we are so marally pure !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Yeah, magnataur babies are surely helpless and innocent. Also its not like we kill some of them during one quest. Garrush Y U SO EVUL !?!?!?!
    Sure, if you think someone going to your house, kidnapping your kids and force you to murder people is a good thing.

    And people still ask why Blizz went all graphic to show their point...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tauror View Post
    Sure, if you think someone going to your house, kidnapping your kids and force you to murder people is a good thing.

    And people still ask why Blizz went all graphic to show their point...
    Of course its evil !!! I mean its not like numerous quest in wotlk send us "go to magnataur nest and wipe everything that moves". Also we totally didnt collapsed enterance to one of they cavern burying alive adults and kids alive !!! WE DID NOT DID THAT !!!

    Also magnataur are basically mindless beasts so honestly who cares if you kill them young or old ? Garrosh at least found use to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Of course its evil !!! I mean its not like numerous quest in wotlk send us "go to magnataur nest and wipe everything that moves". Also we totally didnt collapsed enterance to one of they cavern burying alive adults and kids alive !!! WE DID NOT DID THAT !!!
    Thank you for agreeing with me and adding the point that the player is as evil as Garrosh (nothing new there).

    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Also magnataur are basically mindless beasts so honestly who cares if you kill them young or old ? Garrosh at least found use to them.
    Nope, Magnataur are actually inteligent enough to understand what is coercion.

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    Its also pretty funny how people pull a moralfag about how using children as hostage's is bad when... as goblin player you abduct young nagas and use them to force adult ones to surrender. Guess all goblin player's are monsters who need to be purged as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Its also pretty funny how people pull a moralfag about how using children as hostage's is bad when... as goblin player you abduct young nagas and use them to force adult ones to surrender. Guess all goblin player's are monsters who need to be purged as well.
    My belf didn't do that Nagas are evil anyway old god infused spawn its ok to abuse them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Its also pretty funny how people pull a moralfag about how using children as hostage's is bad when... as goblin player you abduct young nagas and use them to force adult ones to surrender. Guess all goblin player's are monsters who need to be purged as well.
    Did you missed everything else that the Goblin player does in Kezan? The lying, cheating and steal?

    You don't need to convince that the PC of some races is a bastard, we all know that. But we aren't the bastard with Old God power that is trying to murder the entire world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tauror View Post
    Did you missed everything else that the Goblin player does in Kezan? The lying, cheating and steal?
    You don't steal from children !!! Also all these things are natural things in azeroth, like 90% of "collect" quests resolve around us going to enemy base and looting shit out of it. Also cheating about insurance isnt evil, since these guys will do everything not to pay you anyway.

    The point still is, that players are as evil as garrosh and have no right to judge him. (at least in kids as cannon fodder case, in other cases they have more than enough right to judge him).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    You don't steal from children !!! Also all these things are natural things in azeroth, like 90% of "collect" quests resolve around us going to enemy base and looting shit out of it. Also cheating about insurance isnt evil, since these guys will do everything not to pay you anyway.

    The point still is, that players are as evil as garrosh and have no right to judge him. (at least in kids as cannon fodder case, in other cases they have more than enough right to judge him).
    Well we have to do something in game otherwise we'd get bored

    We can judge him, 100%! He's done a lot of bad things and is just a bad egg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    You don't steal from children !!! Also all these things are natural things in azeroth, like 90% of "collect" quests resolve around us going to enemy base and looting shit out of it. Also cheating about insurance isnt evil, since these guys will do everything not to pay you anyway.

    The point still is, that players are as evil as garrosh and have no right to judge him. (at least in kids as cannon fodder case, in other cases they have more than enough right to judge him).
    Already answered above. And I do have the right to judge accordingly the character I play. I can easily answer, if I was a Goblin PC, that Garrosh screwed my profits over and over again. As a Pandaren Monk, the kidnapping kids deal is something I can't stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Its also pretty funny how people pull a moralfag about how using children as hostage's is bad when... as goblin player you abduct young nagas and use them to force adult ones to surrender. Guess all goblin player's are monsters who need to be purged as well.
    Three problems with this flawed viewpoint.

    1/ Naga aren't innocents, they are corrupted at their core as an entire race.

    2/ Garrosh isn't using these children as a bargining tool. Infact, he seems to only be using them to torture their parents and drive them insane while they fight against each other in the pits.

    3/ The Goblins aren't the aggressors in this situation. Garrosh is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khalltusk View Post
    Well we have to do something in game otherwise we'd get bored

    We can judge him, 100%! He's done a lot of bad things and is just a bad egg.
    Why do we kill Garrosh then? I'm bored, let's kill Anduin.

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    If he kidnapped them off record, then people can still say that there was nothing wrong with the Horde's assault on Theramore. It's pretty clear that Garrosh and the Horde are two separate entities.

    I feel like Blizzard is trying way too hard to make Garrosh as despicable as possible. It's like they're trying to change everything he's done into a horrible act of violence. Give it a month, we'll learn that Garrosh only got mad at Overlord Krom'gar (Stonetalon Mountains questline) because he wasted a bomb. We'll also learn that he asked Magatha to poison his weapon before his fight with Cairne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lime View Post
    Give it a month, we'll learn that Garrosh only got mad at Overlord Krom'gar (Stonetalon Mountains questline) because he wasted a bomb.
    Actually, Kosak already said that's what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tauror View Post
    Actually, Kosak already said that's what happened.
    I thought he was just putting the idea out there. If he confirmed it, I must've missed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tauror View Post
    Actually, Kosak already said that's what happened.
    What I recall is them clarifying it wasn't that he used a bomb, but the target of the bomb. At that point Garrosh still had some sense of honor, he wasn't upset about a bomb being used but that it was used on a school that wasn't a threat. While Theramore was a primarily martial target.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Durandro View Post
    Three problems with this flawed viewpoint.

    1/ Naga aren't innocents, they are corrupted at their core as an entire race.

    Given the fact that majority of races cannot live without conflict thats kinda BS

    2/ Garrosh isn't using these children as a bargining tool. Infact, he seems to only be using them to torture their parents and drive them insane while they fight against each other in the pits.

    Terror tactics are as good as any others.

    3/ The Goblins aren't the aggressors in this situation. Garrosh is.

    They kinda were given the fact that they crashed on the goddamn island.
    Let's face it we are (horde a little more than alliance) giant hipocrites in our war against garry.

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    kids are anoying he did us a favor ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lime View Post
    I thought he was just putting the idea out there. If he confirmed it, I must've missed it.
    devs don't put ideas out there without there being merit to why there saying it.

    Its easier to put together too, Garrosh simply making it look like he gave a shit about 'children' being killed in a bomb, when he just did so and killed his commander to make you think otherwise. Rather then seeing it as a retcon, its better to take it as Garrosh fooling you into thinking something else.

    The ironic thing is, it just means he's even more diabolical then previously thought, that even back then, he saw the bomb as an opportunity rather then a travesty. Why would he consider it anything else, Garrosh has shown he hates anything that isn't an orc, and wants to wipe all non-orc life off the face of azeroth, so he really wasn't upset about killing night elf children, he was just upset he lost a bomb, and used it as a political side wind.
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