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    Quote Originally Posted by Tauror View Post
    Like Lokann said, he is new to leadership and the "young" always come from elder Horde members.
    Well, and I think Thrall as well, which was likely an oversight, but can be easily explained in-universe (so as not to break immersion I suppose ).

    Thrall and Grom considered each other blood brothers. And if Grom was seen as an elder brother, then Thrall would automatically see Garrosh as a youngster, no matter his actual age.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokann View Post
    The only real retcons I can think of in this vein within the Warcraft universe were the orcs' background in Warcraft 3 (even then there had been seeds of that planted as far back as the WC2 manual), the draenei-eredar connection, the Thrall vs. Garrosh duel pre-Wrath and Garona's species.
    The nature of the Light and what exactly "The Holy Light" is was changed, wasn't it? Originally the priests were referred to as followers of a God, and now it seems to just be a concept rather than a deity


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    Quote Originally Posted by Everything Nice View Post
    The nature of the Light and what exactly "The Holy Light" is was changed, wasn't it? Originally the priests were referred to as followers of a God, and now it seems to just be a concept rather than a deity
    Ah yes, that one as well, the transfer from a seemingly monotheistic religion to more of an antitheistic philosophy that just so happens to give you shiny laser powers. x)



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    This is one of the reasons I like ASOIAF (Game of Thrones books), the author flat out says, these are the character's personal opinions/belief's/etc and they are not reliable narrator's as to what is fact or not.

    I see a Ret-Con, when something was seen and is then later changed. The following is a ret-con:
    In the Warcraft III and World of Warcraft game manuals (and in Sargeras and the Betrayal from the History of Warcraft), the eredar are described as being a demonic and evil race that had consumed their own world through arcane powers, and had already destroyed countless other worlds by the time Sargeras discovered them. It was not until after Sargeras destroyed them that he himself became corrupted, and the Burning Legion was born.

    In The Burning Crusade, however, the Burning Legion had already begun under Sargeras' leadership when he encountered the eredar, who became corrupt through his influence. Furthermore, a faction of the eredar did not join the Burning Legion, instead became followers of the Holy Light, and renamed themselves Draenei.

    Presumably, either another demonic race (such as the pit lords) take the place of the eredar in the role of corrupting Sargeras, or it is left completely up to the dreadlords. Blizzard has not released any official information on the matter.

    Chris Metzen admitted the contradiction was a mistake in a forum post, but it has become the current story.

    Taken from WoWWikki.

    While I take something like, Garona's being said to be half orc and half human, to half orc/half Draenei as something from an unreliable narrator, even though it was changed, the writer's were able to play it off as if she was just mistaken for half human.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighto73 View Post
    Presumably, either another demonic race (such as the pit lords) take the place of the eredar in the role of corrupting Sargeras, or it is left completely up to the dreadlords. Blizzard has not released any official information on the matter.
    I think you mean Dreadlords (Or rather, the Nathrezim), not Pit Lords.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Everything Nice View Post
    I think you mean Dreadlords (Or rather, the Nathrezim), not Pit Lords.
    The latest hints points towards the Incubi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tauror View Post
    The latest hints points towards the Incubi.
    The WoW Magazine showed it was a combination of demons (Ered'ruin, Sayaad, infernals, and Mo'arg) that first put Sargeras into the depression. Then Nathrazim drove it home (as in the original lore).
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    I'm determined to someday make Med'an awesome. (MickyNeilson)
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    ´So.. sorry to bring this up but..you know that .."thing" (Med'an).. is that "thing" cannon still?
    ...as much have some have wished otherwise, yes. (Loreology)

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