"I wouldn't anticipate seeing much of doctor boom" - Trump 2014"I myself am not too hopeful about the Grim Patron deck" - Trump 2015"(Secret Paladin) didn't work out and I don't think Mysterious Challenger will change that." - Trump 2015"(Darkshire Councilman) takes a bit too long to get set up...bad" - Trump 2016
If they are/were going to commit themselves to an Alliance vs Horde war then they should have damn well made sure they had the resources to keep it dynamic and interesting for both sides. If not end it and return to a neutral storyline that both factions can enjoy.
I don't even know what it means "neutral storyline", since the point of phasing Ashenvale would be to, basically, remove the Horde presence from there, while now both sides have plenty of quests there, and this have nothing to do with the feeling of fairness, justice, sense of victory and stuff like that. For this they always say "gameplay > lore" when it comes to the game itself.
Zones gained and lost, skirmishes in zones changing every patch.
Blizzard didn't have the resources for this and at times it came across as very forced, poorly written and felt like 1 side got by far the better (see horde 1-60, 5.3)
Many zones had important changes that, in fact, brought the story forward with many events regarding the development of Garrosh, which was designed to be the final villain of MoP, so he needed some goddamn development outside of novels and short-stories.
Revamping Ashenvale and Gilneas would just result in trivial story progression that probably wouldn't have nothing to do with the next expansion or even the next one after that, nothing that couldn't just be confirmed and explained by the devs or in some novel/short story, like happened with the "canonical removal" of the Kor'kron guards in the Undercity; what you say about the "zones gained and lost, skirmishes in zones changing every patch" ecc. could be applied if the game had 100% focus in the Horde/Alliance conflict, but it doesn't; this whole HvA campaign served just a precise storyline (Garrosh's arc) and the revamp in Cata helped a lot to actually give any sense of progression to the story.
And if you felt that the Alliance quests were a bit worse or the Horde ones a bit better in the revamped zones that have been intended, since the "old world" always favored the Alliance in terms of interesting questlines and zones, compared to the Horde ones that were unintersting and, indeed, poorly written.
One thing is sure, phasing or revamping again those zones just for achieve some kind of justice or perfect balance is out of question, especially if we consider that I don't think any kind of "balance" would be achieved with the Horde removed by Ashenvale, for example, since would suddenly erase all their questlines there, and if the plan is just phasing Ashenvale just for see the Horde still there, with completely new questlines, but in a "losing" situation, well...that's pretty frivolous, if the point is moving forward a conflict that will have zero interest in the main story, at least in the short-term; they could always change their minds about it if some important storyline will be tied to these zones, probably.
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Sure, sure, whatever. "Persuading" some "volunteers" to quit (while their kids go "Whee this was fun!" and such) is totally the same as having to rescue children that were explicitly kidnapped and threatened by a bunch of undead warlocks and shit holding them prisoner with evil floating green eyes. Whatever, it's only Aquamonkey talking. The Alliance aren't the ones having to storm their own capital and kill their own faction leader on his throne while somehow acting like they haven't been taking his orders for years.
Keep it civil please.
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- You claimed "children enslaved by the Horde." Completely false. They are held captive, not enslaved at all.
- You claimed "persuade volunteers working for the Alliance." False. "What's worse - I fear that some villagers are being held against their will." There's a word for forced servitude, I believe it's called slavery. And guess who the Alliance are using as labor according to the quest-giver? Children.
How are those Eye of Ga'trul threatening the cubs? All they do is watch the prisoners and look scary. Ga'trul is an orc.
Also, the Horde forces tried to trade but the Pandaren refused. "My troops will need food, we cannot eat the corpses of drowned sailors like the disgusting undead." Obviously Ga'trul being undiplomatic and rather stupid didn't help matters.
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The answer to your question? They won't. The Orcs will not control the Horde after this.
Okay, good thread!