Timless Isle Progress Storyline (Spoiler) - Stormwind and some Facts

[Stiven]

Just check out scenescript files and broadcast text. All I know scenescript for Garrosh Raid is siege of orgrimmar. Everything rest I assume is not connected to Raid, more to questline.

Garrosh Raid - Siege Engineer - Pipe Transition
Garrosh Raid - Siege Engineer - Pipe Ejection
Legendary 5.4 - Chapter 16 - Timeless Intro - DGK
Vale of Eternal Blossoms 5.4: zto - Garrosh Finale
Vale of Eternal Blossoms 5.4: zto - Garrosh Finale - Tree Final Ambience
Legendary 5.4 - Finale - Cloak Reveal - Xuen - ZTO
Legendary 5.4 - Finale - Cloak Reveal - Nuizhao - ZTO
Legendary 5.4 - Finale - Cloak Reveal - Chiji - ZTO
Legendary 5.4 - Finale - Cloak Reveal - Yulon - ZTO
Garrosh Raid - Siege Engineer - Wing Intro Scene - Alliance
Legendary 5.4 - Finale - Lorewalker Stage - ZTO (Effects Test)
Garrosh Raid - Garrosh Encounter - Enter Heart Realm Camera
Garrosh Raid - Garrosh Encounter - Enter Heroic Phase Camera
Garrosh Raid - Siege Engineer - Wing Intro Scene - Horde
Garrosh Raid - Corrupted Vale Intro
Garrosh Raid - Siege Engineer - Pipe Entrance Rejection
Timeless Isle 5.4 - Story Progression - Scene 1 (Saurfang and Thrall Sneak In)
Timeless Isle 5.4 - Story Progression - Scene 2 (Intro to the Compound)
Timeless Isle 5.4 - Story Progression - Scene 3 (Garrosh + Kairoz)
Timeless Isle 5.4 - Story Progression - Scene 4 (Stormwind Destroyed) - Erm WTF ?
Timeless Isle 5.4 - Story Progression - Scene 6 (Soridormi Dies) - Soridormi is the prime mate of Nozdormu (the dragon aspect of time)
Timeless Isle 5.4 - Story Progression - Scene 5 (Garrosh + Andy) - Andy = Anduin
Garrosh Raid - Siege Engineer - Wing Intro Scene - Horde (copy)

Garrosh Raid is thing for Siege of Orgrimmar
Timless Isle is some quest line from my point of view

Now looking on Scenescript files, I check out Timeless Isle 5.4 - Story Progression - Scene 4 - Main - Stormwind destroyed part.

screenEffectFlashback			= 1011
genericFOV90 		= 368
scene:SetFadeRegion(3000000, true)
scene:ApplyScreenEffect(screenEffectFlashback)
Wait(3)
scene:TriggerServerEvent("teleport")
MoveCameraToPathStart(genericFOV90, 0, 6843, 6844)
anduin		= SpawnActorAtPoint(73607, 6847, false)
anduin:PlayLoopingAnimKit(4377)
anduin:SetScale(1.9)
anduin:PlayMusic(39760)
anduin:PlaySoundKitStereo(39754, false)
baine		= SpawnActorAtPoint(73603, 6848, false)
baine:PlayLoopingAnimKit(4377)
baine:SetScale(2)
jaina		= SpawnActorAtPoint(73598, 6849, false)
jaina:PlayLoopingAnimKit(4378)
jaina:SetScale(2.25)
lorthemar	= SpawnActorAtPoint(73605, 6850, false)
lorthemar:PlayLoopingAnimKit(4377)
lorthemar:SetScale(2)
sylvanas	= SpawnActorAtPoint(73606, 6851, false)
sylvanas:PlayLoopingAnimKit(4380)
sylvanas:SetScale(2.25)
taranzhu	= SpawnActorAtPoint(73593, 6852, false)
taranzhu:PlayLoopingAnimKit(4377)
taranzhu:SetScale(2)
thrall		= SpawnActorAtPoint(71149, 6854, false)
thrall:PlayLoopingAnimKit(4376)
thrall:SetScale(2)
thrall:EquipWeapon(WeaponSlot.MainHand, 0)
tyrande		= SpawnActorAtPoint(73962, 6855, false)
tyrande:PlayLoopingAnimKit(4381)
tyrande:SetScale(2.25)
voljin		= SpawnActorAtPoint(73942, 6856, false)
voljin:PlayLoopingAnimKit(4379)
voljin:SetScale(2.25)
voljin:EquipWeapon(WeaponSlot.MainHand, 0)
wrynn		= SpawnActorAtPoint(73592, 6846, false)
wrynn:PlayLoopingAnimKit(4377)
wrynn:SetScale(2)
Wait(5)
MoveCameraToPathStart(genericFOV90, 0, 6857, 6858)
Wait(5)
SetCameraFollowPath(genericFOV90, 0, 6857, 6858, 25)

Thrall and Varok entering Orgrimmar: - BroadcastText...
Step aside, brothers. We must speak with Hellscream.
No one may enter the city. Not even you, Shaman.
Thrall? Varok? What business do you have here?
Strength and Honor, General. We come to speak with Garrosh. There may yet be hope for peace.
But...
Kor'kron! You are needed at the front!
NOW!
You know I can make no guarantee of your safety... or Garrosh's response.


Timeless Isle 5.4 - Story Progression - Scene 5 - Main - Scenescript Anduin and Garrosh, the G_CageBase and G_Cage_Arcane looks like metal cage just some arcane spell, really cba to make sceenshoot from model viewer.

creenEffectFlashback			= 1011
genericFOV90 		= 368
scene:SetFadeRegion(1000, true)
scene:ApplyScreenEffect(screenEffectFlashback)
Wait(3)
cagebase = SpawnModelActorAtPoint( "WORLD\\GOOBER\\G_CageBase.m2", 6868, false, 4)
cage	 = SpawnModelActorAtPoint( "WORLD\\GOOBER\\G_Cage_Arcane.m2", 6868, false, 4)
garrosh = SpawnActorAtPoint(74130, 6869, false)
garrosh:PlayLoopingFullBodyAnim(Animations.SitGround)
garrosh:PlaySoundKitStereo(39754, false)
garrosh:PlayMusic(39761)
rat = SpawnActorAtPoint(4075, 6872, false)
shadopan1	= SpawnActorAtPoint(64473, 6874, true)
shadopan2	= SpawnActorAtPoint(63196, 6875, true)
anduin		= SpawnActorAtPoint(73607, 6876, true)
MoveCameraToPathStart(genericFOV90, 0, 6870, 6871)
Wait(2)
rat:FollowPathAtSpeed(6873, 7)
anduin:FollowPathAtSpeed(6877, 3)
SetCameraFollowPath(genericFOV90, 0, 6870, 6871, 10)
anduin:WaitMovementComplete()
anduin:WaitPlayOneShotFullBodyAnim(Animations.EmoteTalk)
shadopan1:WaitPlayOneShotFullBodyAnim(Animations.EmoteTalk)
anduin:WaitPlayOneShotFullBodyAnim(Animations.EmoteYes)
shadopan1:FollowPathAtSpeed(6885, 3)
shadopan2:FollowPathAtSpeed(6886, 3)
SetCameraFollowPath(genericFOV90, 4, 6888, 6889, 10)
anduin:FollowPathAtSpeed(6887, 3)
garrosh:StopLoopingFullBodyAnim()
garrosh:FollowPathAtSpeed(6890, 3)
Wait(9)
garrosh:WaitPlayOneShotFullBodyAnim(Animations.EmoteTalk)
anduin:WaitPlayOneShotFullBodyAnim(Animations.EmoteTalk)
scene:ApplyScreenEffect(screenEffectFadeToBlack)
Wait(1)
scene:ClearScreenEffect(screenEffectFlashback)

When I look this Timeless Isle thingy, All i see is many many major character spawns...

[Romire]

Hmm Interesting

[Vapo]

poor Soridormi

[Mawnix]

Sounds like the Stormwind thing that was datamined is something we see as we go through Siege.

Probably a possibility in the timestream. Nozdormu's mate is the one who most likely shows us.

Still, what's the rest of this mean? Is it talking about the raid cutscenes?

Confusing.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Sounds like the Stormwind thing that was datamined is something we see as we go through Siege.

Probably a possibility in the timestream. Nozdormu's mate is the one who most likely shows us.

Still, what's the rest of this mean? Is it talking about the raid cutscenes?

Confusing.

It could be, but I imagine the forums will erupt in QQ that the permanant loss of the Harbor is "confirmed" as soon as they calm down about The Dark Below.

Also, it's interesting how Nozdormu finds this time anomaly, sees these dark outcomes, and then has his prime consort die....

Could be Blizz IS setting up to show us the Rise of Murozond in the near future (Expansion V theme?).

[Stiven]

It could be, but I imagine the forums will erupt in QQ that the permanant loss of the Harbor is "confirmed" as soon as they calm down about The Dark Below.

Also, it's interesting how Nozdormu finds this time anomaly, sees these dark outcomes, and then has his prime consort die....

Could be Blizz IS setting up to show us the Rise of Murozond in the near future (Expansion V theme?).

Didn't we kill Murozond already -.-

[Matt0193]

Didn't we kill Murozond already -.-

Nope, we killed the future Murozond. It could be that he becomes so overcome with grief that he attempts to alter the timeline so that the heroes lose the battle with Deathwing, so that they cannot come to Pandaria, meaning Soridomu won't die.

[McCulloch]

I would be happy if they brought Murozond back. That story plot of Nozdormu could have been so much more, but all we got was one instance.

Hopefully, the Stormwind Harbor is an alternate timeline. Maybe that's why the Alliance join the rebels. If Garrosh crushes the rebels, then Stormwind would fall. That's why the Alliance wouldn't be able to come after the rebellion and clean house with whoever wins.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Didn't we kill Murozond already -.-

Nope, we killed the future Murozond. It could be that he becomes so overcome with grief that he attempts to alter the timeline so that the heroes lose the battle with Deathwing, so that they cannot come to Pandaria, meaning Soridomu won't die.

Welcome to what some call a "big ball of timey wimey stuff."

At some point Nozdormu will become corrupt and become Murozond after founding the Infinite Dragonflight. The Infinites will work against the uncorrupted Nozdormu in events we've seen in various instances over the last many years. Then he will attempt to block Nozdormu's efforts to send heroes to the War of the Ancients in pursuit of the Dragon Soul. At that point we travel to the End Time and kill Murozond.

It'd be a very bizarre expansion, because the main villain is a character we won't kill because we've already killed him. It'd also be very unique by RPG, MMO, and Blizzard standards.

[KrazyK923]

Uhhh Stormwind is destroyed...what?

It looks like, if this is correct, the harbor's destruction is not in heroic Garrosh's fight.

Also, maybe OP'll know, are the Timeless Isle marked parts quests in the Isle? It'd be nice to get some actual story outside the raid.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Uhhh Stormwind is destroyed...what?

It looks like, if this is correct, the harbor's destruction is not in heroic Garrosh's fight.

Also, maybe OP'll know, are the Timeless Isle marked parts quests in the Isle? It'd be nice to get some actual story outside the raid.

We don't know for sure if it's destroyed for real yet. We just know it's part of the Timeless Isle and not part of the Siege of Orgrimmar.

It could be some kind of "This is the cost of failure" moment a'la End Time.

[KrazyK923]

Would be exceptionally random since the rest of the stuff seemingly takes place in real time.

[Stiven]

I can't find connection between timeless isle and siege of Orgrimmar. Even I can't find connection between Soridormi and Kairoz with siege of Orgrimmar.
I also can't find out are those scenescripts related to timeless isle quests.

Maybe all of this timeless Isle thing is quest-line that will send u to orgrimmar raid.

[Scummer]

Ok so all of this has just hit me.
How much of this did we know before and was on the PTR before? I wasn't aware that Soridormi dies, is that new?

I'm gonna ignore the SW stuff.

[KrazyK923]

Soridormi was alive until now, apparently.

[Deleted]

Nope, we killed the future Murozond. It could be that he becomes so overcome with grief that he attempts to alter the timeline so that the heroes lose the battle with Deathwing, so that they cannot come to Pandaria, meaning Soridomu won't die.

he cant do this, since he wove all the timelines together when Deathwing died. so there can't excist any versions in which Deathwing prevailed.
however after that he can mess with it agian when he turns Murozond, which he apperently inviteably will become if you listen too him in Dragon Soul.

[KrazyK923]

Any updates on this, OP?

I dont mean to rez threads, but I'm legit curious about this.

[Matt0193]

he cant do this, since he wove all the timelines together when Deathwing died. so there can't excist any versions in which Deathwing prevailed.
however after that he can mess with it agian when he turns Murozond, which he apperently inviteably will become if you listen too him in Dragon Soul.

I know, but what I'm saying is that this could be the trigger that causes the transformation from Nozdormu into Murozond. As much as it's disliked, think of it like Star Wars 3 where Anakin becomes corrupted by the dark sides because he wants to same Padme. Only this time it'll be grief over losing his prime consort and, unlike Alexstrasza who couldn't bring Korialstrasz back to life, he would be changing the timelines to prevent the events that allowed the mortal races to exist on Azeroth and arrive on Pandaria; Without the Dark Portal no Orcs would've made it through, without Thrall the Orcs would still have been in captivity, Arthas would still be alive and the Scourge unstrolled by Bolvar. All of these things result in us, the heroes, going to Pandaria and discovering the Timeless Isle. Remember, in the Caverns of Time we're told that the Infinite Dragonflight is attempting to change the events all throughout the timelines. The ones we went to were just the ones that required immediate attention and intervention.

What I am interested in, is how she dies. It doesn't seem to be related to Orgrimmar, so it's not like she flies us to Garrosh and he kills her. It has to be something that cannot be predicted that kills her, otherwise Nozdormu would've forseen it and warned her.

[xinjun]

What I am interested in, is how she dies. It doesn't seem to be related to Orgrimmar, so it's not like she flies us to Garrosh and he kills her. It has to be something that cannot be predicted that kills her, otherwise Nozdormu would've forseen it and warned her.

This part intrigues me due to the "timeless" nature of the isle. It is outside the dominion of the Bronze Dragonflight. Hmmmmm.....

[Polybius]

I'm wondering if Soridormi's death will trigger Nozdormu to think of his mortality, thus creating the Infinite Dragonflight.