They are not working a skilled job at all. They are doing something that a chimpanzee could probably do if given enough vocalization training. They don't deserve tips at all. They should be thankful if they get one and still thankful if they don't. The culture of demanding tips is absolutely disgusting.
OP, I would tell that waitress on your Facebook feed that she isn't working any special job that deserves tipping. She's doing menial, average labor and she doesn't deserve tips from hardworking people who can barely afford the bill in the first place. Tell her to stop being so infuriatingly self-entitled.
My comment about wiping out the restaurant industry simply meant that if everyone stopped tipping, and servers and such weren't paid a decent wage, nobody would perform those jobs.
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if you don't have a source of income why would you go out to a place where you leave a tip just go to like a subway or mcdonalds rather than La Hacienda or Apple Bees
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add the tip to the price and im fine with that, give a tip not even based on my happiness as a customer or even my mood ? its my money i spent it how i please.
and why wouldn't you tip a MCdonalds person ? but you will some other place where the food/service is as bad.
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Her boss would disagree and to me, grounds for firing if said to a customer.
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Give me 1 good reason why I should tip? Do I get a tip everytime I help a customer in IT? Nop, why? Because I am doing the job I am hired for! And the job I am getting paid for. Just like the waiter, cook whatever. So why should they get a tip? What's next, tip everyone that ever does their job? We already do, it's what you get per hour.
People who post that are pretty much saying "ermahgerd, give meh free muniez!"
So? Shouldn't have slacked at school and expected people to sustain your livelihood by tips. Also, the actual wage is much higher than that in almost every state. Most waiters/waitresses get paid ~$10.00 per hour in California, for example.2.13 an hour
If you can't afford a tip, you certainly can afford to eat out.
Regardless of how the United States handles it, tips are not mandatory, they're a reward for going above and beyond when dealing with customers. If I have to wait for my drink refills, or no-one is asking me how my meal is going, I'm less likely to tip.
Having recently went to Wagamamas and getting fantastic service, I left a tip. That is how it works. You do your job, you earn your wage, you go above the requirements of your job and make an effort, you'll earn a tip and your wage.
I checked the average dining prices and even taking in conversion between euro and US dollar our prices here in Finland are quite in same category regarding dinner yet our restaurants manage to turn in proper profit while paying waiters wages that actually support living.
Restaurants could easily afford to pay proper wages but they don't because they have this cop-out system called "mandatory tipping" where the blame is put on customer while they laugh their way to the bank.
And looking at the food prices and average tips people tend to boast in threads like this it seems you lot pay more per food than we.
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a tip is a tip and not a fee, it's not the customer's fault that somewhere along the line someone forgot the meaning of the word and made this mess because they couldn't just include it in the bill. you don't get paid to bitch about tips, you get paid to do your job. it should be a crime to complain about tipping.
its like ffs you go to a restaurant for the food, not for someone to bring you the food. but how many places have you gone to where you could refuse a waiter's service? waiters take their jobs for granted, anyone can do what they do, it's a miracle that people are willing to be bitched at by them and continue to act like they have broken legs, or they'd be out of a goddamn job and bitching about how they have no job at all.
Pro tip: If tipping was considered customary for IT professionals, then you would probably get paid minimum wage, and you'd be crying about everybody who didn't tip you.
While I don't agree with her statement, the attitude towards Waiters / Waitresses in this tread is quite appalling. It may not be hard physical work, but it certainly isn't the lowest option, and is often filled with young people looking to save some cash for better and bigger things, such as a Car to then be able to travel to a higher paying job, or their education.
Can we all just get back to the point at hand, and stop abusing anyone who works in any form of Retail?
Oh. No? Congratufuckinglations, now you sound like a jackass.
If you don't want to tip wait staff, get their wages changed.
Wages in this country so screwed, there's likely no light at the end of the tunnel.
I'm grateful that I was privileged enough in life to never have to scrounge for tips. I sincerely feel sorry for those that do have to work such jobs.