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    Quote Originally Posted by Djalil View Post
    The shift in the balance of power IS intended to tip the balance on favour of the rebels. Once they eventually topple assad, who's going to stop the furios civil war that'll follow?
    Team America of course!

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    Will the Nobel frauds ask for his peace prize back?
    As soon as they ask it back from Henry Kissinger and Yasser Arafat.

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    MERIKA! Fuck yeah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naxere View Post
    Team America of course!
    *cheer*

    Unless you leave them as they are, "drone" what twenty targets per day while alqaeda slaughter and eat 100 a day not bad for a scenario.
    The extremists have been trying to get their hands on secular Syria for 50 years. They'll litterally slaughter everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djalil View Post
    The shift in the balance of power IS intended to tip the balance on favour of the rebels. Once they eventually topple assad, who's going to stop the furios civil war that'll follow?
    As I said, don't assume this is intended to END the war. There is the possibility that in the grand strategy it has been decided Syria in a civil war is prefered over either side winning.....

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    As I said, don't assume this is intended to END the war. There is the possibility that in the grand strategy it has been decided Syria in a civil war is prefered over either side winning.....
    And I am supposed to support that why?
    And more importantly, more civilians have to die why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    As I said, don't assume this is intended to END the war. There is the possibility that in the grand strategy it has been decided Syria in a civil war is prefered over either side winning.....
    Mind you. I like how you talk. At least you don't come up with the "omg they gassed people" bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djalil View Post
    And I am supposed to support that why?
    And more importantly, more civilians have to die why?

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    Mind you. I like how you talk. At least you don't come up with the "omg they gassed people" bullshit.
    No matter who wins, the victor is likely to "remove" a large portion of the losers support base. There will be many deaths no matter what. The only outcomes that dont cause more strife in the region is stalemate or the (unlikely) total victory by a moderate faction.

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    Guess I better pack my bags and get ready for a free trip to Damascus next year . . .

    Maybe I'll just take the ones labeled "Bagram" and relabel them . . .
    Putin khuliyo

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    Both Haaretz and Jerusalem Post had editorials that are posing the question if the US simply want to provoke Syria with an attack and as a result betting that they will also retaliate on Israel forcing Israel to attack and dethrone Assad.
    That would solve 3 main objectives for the US while giving the illusion that all was fair and square.

    1. Greatly remove the risk that chemical or biological weapons ending up in the hands of the new regime or terrorist groups and used against the US.
    2. US fear the war will spread to Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon etc.
    3. US want to deny Russia, Iran an AQ to take advantage of the conflict.

    Rather interesting read.
    But soon after Mr Xi secured a third term, Apple released a new version of the feature in China, limiting its scope. Now Chinese users of iPhones and other Apple devices are restricted to a 10-minute window when receiving files from people who are not listed as a contact. After 10 minutes, users can only receive files from contacts.
    Apple did not explain why the update was first introduced in China, but over the years, the tech giant has been criticised for appeasing Beijing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    No matter who wins, the victor is likely to "remove" a large portion of the losers support base. There will be many deaths no matter what. The only outcomes that dont cause more strife in the region is stalemate or the (unlikely) total victory by a moderate faction.
    Uh? The only outcome that don't cause more strife is continuation of the civil war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djalil View Post
    Uh? The only outcome that don't cause more strife is continuation of the civil war?
    Strife in this case is external, not internal. Few victors in the war would not cause more instability in surrounding nations.

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    Strife in this case is external, not internal. Few victors in the war would not cause more instability in surrounding nations.
    The only way to reduce instability is to have assad back on power. Second best option is the FSA. But that requires an invasion. Anything other than that including continuation of war is eventually going to cause more instability.

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    All of this Syrian outrage is just political posturing. He wants Conservatives to be a scapegoat, and he's only going to them because of that.

    His real agenda and interest is to reclaim the House in 2014 and get Pelosi for Speaker again. Besides in all other incidents he's acted without them. Why is now different? Simple. He and the Democrats need this crisis. He's not a leader, he is a campaigner. That said Republican views aren't much better, but for the moment I've found their dialogue on why we should not aid the Syrians far more meaningful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djalil View Post
    The only way to reduce instability is to have assad back on power. Second best option is the FSA. But that requires an invasion. Anything other than that including continuation of war is eventually going to cause more instability.
    Assad is just as instable as AQ is in the region. Right now they are fighting each other, which is better than them fighting others.

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    Assad is just as instable as AQ is in the region. Right now they are fighting each other, which is better than them fighting others.
    Not at all. You know, saying things doesn't make it true. Please read what Syria was before the rebels decided it was time to reduce it to a pile of ash.

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    why is it ok for asad to kill his people with bullets but not with chemicals?

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    “With respect to Arab countries offering to bear costs and to assess, the answer is profoundly yes,” Kerry said. “They have. That offer is on the table.”-John Kerry.
    Asked by Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) about how much those countries would contribute, Kerry said they have offered to pay for all of a full invasion.
    We are fighting a war for the saudis people, wake up.
    That's right a full invasion not just bombing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djalil View Post
    Not at all. You know, saying things doesn't make it true. Please read what Syria was before the rebels decided it was time to reduce it to a pile of ash.
    I am fully aware of what Syria was before the civil war. They were not pacifists. They were involved in Hezbollah, not exactly a stablizing influence in the region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    “With respect to Arab countries offering to bear costs and to assess, the answer is profoundly yes,” Kerry said. “They have. That offer is on the table.”-John Kerry.
    Asked by Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) about how much those countries would contribute, Kerry said they have offered to pay for all of a full invasion.
    Them offering to pay for an invasion is not the same as the US actually going through with one.
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    I am fully aware of what Syria was before the civil war. They were not pacifists. They were involved in Hezbollah, not exactly a stablizing influence in the region.
    A secular government IS a stabilising influence regardless in that area. It could, through political pressure, have turned into a possible "turkey".

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