in cata as soon as he became warchief he allowed the goblins to pollute their water supply as long as they gave the horde weaponry, he still didnt view goblins themselves as meaningful so he relegated trolls and goblins to the slums, he viewed the undead as wretches useful as nothing but flesh shields to be thrown on the front lines, blood elves were only tolerated so long as their magic was helpful
garrosh only ever viewed tauren and orcs as strong enough to truly be horde, and then baine grew more and more reluctant to do anything with garrosh as he saw garroshes true colours and then even tauren were considered trecherous cowards who dont use their own strength.
garrosh was always this way, the main reason people like him is "because he beat up alliance" look at all the threads about garrosh they all revolve around either stonetalon which is the exception and according to ghostcrawler and kosak he was just lying so he couldnt be held accountable and wouldnt cause dissent from the members of the horde who would disagree or its based around the fact that he beat up alliance.
and most importantly, we saw garrosh go further and further into darkness over 4 expansions it was a slow process that we actually saw.
illidan went from being an anti hero in warcraft 3 to MUAHAHAHAHA YOU ARE NOT PREPARED SO THAT IS WHY I WILL NEVER SHOW UP. seriously we saw illidan twice in person, once was to tell the fel orcs that they are idiots, one is to check up on akama, and then technically a third time where he talks through a crystal.
if illidan and kael'thas decent into insanity was shown slowly overtime in game then maybe i would be able to accept it, i wouldnt like it but i would accept it.
a complete 180 and then never really showing up or getting any lore or character development until we kill them is not what illidan deserved.
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and not only that but another reason people want illidan back is that wow is SEVERELY lacking in anti heroes.
the only major anti hero we have is wrathion. which is why so many people love his character, we need more of that and its hard to just poof a character into existence.
illidan being the ultimate anti hero of warcraft and him having a plausible excuse to be brought back (multiple actually since weve seen demon hunters be revived before, we know nathrezim can regenerate, he had many magical artifacts that coudlve been failsafes, theres lots of ways to bring him back) makes him the one people want the most
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TLDR: garrosh was always intended to be a villain since he was introduced. blizzard has admitted that they never really did illidan right and that alot of the things they did in bc were mistakes because it was their first expansion and they didnt really know what they were doing or how it would turn out. blizzard views things in a much more long term view now then they did at the start of bc.
Immitis, keep in mind that the army he was building in Outland was an army to protect himself against the Legion. He HATED the Burning Legion, and most of the demons he's allied with are either enslaved or have been won over by how strong he is or something else, most likely. Sure, he was wrecking some stuff and causing some problems, but most of the bad things that happened in Outland can be traced to Kael'thas and his secret master (Kil'jaeden).
And I suppose Lady Vashj was screwing things up in Nagrand, but that was really only one zone.
I'm really glad to have this confirmation, but it bothers me that people needed it in the first place. Time traveling to a point before a character needed redemption, does not equal a redemption story.
And I just want to say, I'm not a fan of a lot of Blizzard's retcons, but that's actually exactly why I want them to retcon the nature of his death. The character we opposed and killed in Burning Crusade wasn't Illidan. It was a retconned card carrying villain among a slew of other extremely controversial retcons. I have no problem with them using a second retcon if it means putting things back on track.
Pit lords do seem to be the exception until we see one rezzed.
I also agree with everything Immitis said.
What if Illidan was actually warning us about the pending Kil'jaeden invasion with his "you are not prepared" remark, instead of you are not prepared to face me?
Still, his story was butchered.
eredars are dreanei corrupted/transformed by legion's fel energy.
Archi is an eredar and he is a friend of Velen.
kill a demons avatar the soul goes back to its original body and can be summoned again. in that quest you are binding their souls to stones so that they cant be resummoned because thats the only way to prevent a demon from coming back if you can take out all the summoners or cant manage to get to its real body.
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also eredar are demons. alot of demons started out as mortal races or titanic constructs
I don't think this forum will let you embed tweets.
This is his twitter.
This is the body of the question.
and his response
"Q. At Blizzcon 2011 when you replied about the Illidan possibility of revival. Did you refer to CoT illidan?"
"No. I think there's a spark of him out there somewhere... Muahaha..."
"The problem with demons is that, once killed, they come right back in new bodies!"
also: you kill gan'arg and shivarra demons for that quest. the gan'arg don't seem likely to have avatars, considering their low standing in the legion. they are the tiny and weak assistants of the big and strong mo'arg engineers.
EDIT: also, you don't bind them in stones. you send them back to "whence they came" with banishing portals.
Warlorcs of Draenorc made me quit. You can't have my stuff.
That and we already saw how easy to revive a demon hunter is, in Blasted Lands.
Illidan was an awesome character that went lolinsane because that's the -ONLY WAY- Blizzard knows to create villains.
I have heard that many demons can resurrect , as Illidan is a demon, he might aswell do the same
Mortal races do not become demons. The Eredar are the same as Draenei except they are imbued with power from Sargeras.
The demon races were always what they are. Sargeras himself was tainted by Naztherim. Also Naztherim have been the real thematic resurrection demons out of all of them.
Also Illidan is not a demon he imbued himself with their power. He is neither night elf nor demon.