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    Hidden Attunement for Soo

    is the new content tuned to us being cought up in the legendary quest?

    it seems like the advantage of having the xtra stat gem for weapons, meta gem, plus the cloak, and soon the cloak proc,.. all these things combined give a huge significant gap of deeps and performance over people of equal skill without them.

    so if the normal content is tuned to us being cought up in the legendary is it a hidden attunement to do these quest? should raid leaders take the persons place in the quest in to account when recruiting?

    it would seem that a group with out there meta gems or cloak will be at a severe disadvantage over others with them.

    and if its not nesscery having these items for success,.. and if the fights are not attuned to you having cought up on the quest,.. would that mean the fights would be incribly easy for a raid team with the cloaks?
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    Misleading title -.-

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    DPS or healing checks do not = an attunement

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    Highly unlikely if they tuned it all for people who've finished the legendary questline. Should be just a neat bonus (that many likely have).
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    Quote Originally Posted by I make people mad View Post
    Misleading title -.-
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    None of those items are required for Siege. They will allow your team to be overpowered for the first few bosses but the gem isn't that amazing. The cloak is pretty powerful but an extra few hundred of a stat will quickly be overpowered by the upgrades from 522 - 553 (or 535 - 553) in the rest of your slots.

    So, no, your theory is a bit off.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexor View Post
    is the new content tuned to us being cought up in the legendary quest?

    it seems like the advantage of having the xtra stat gem for weapons, meta gem, plus the cloak, and soon the cloak proc,.. all these things combined give a huge significant gap of deeps and performance over people of equal skill without them.

    so if the normal content is tuned to us being cought up in the legendary is it a hidden attunement to do these quest? should raid leaders take the persons place in the quest in to account when recruiting?

    it would seem that a group with out there meta gems or cloak will be at a severe disadvantage over others with them.

    and if its not nesscery having these items for success,.. and if the fights are not attuned to you having cought up on the quest,.. would that mean the fights would be incribly easy for a raid team with the cloaks?

    Normaly raids are all tuned for the gear from the previous raid. Key words here being raid.

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    If I'm not mistaken the first 8 bosses actually can drop any part of the legendary item from sigils to titan runestones depending on what part of the quest your on.

    And if you'd actually researched the fights you'd see that they are significantly easy, the first boss is basically don't stand in stuff and killing 100 adds.

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    looks like the early answer is no,.. so then the content coming is going to be significantly easy for a raid team with there quest all cought up?
    I rather tank in hell then dps in heaven

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexor View Post
    looks like the early answer is no,.. so then the content coming is going to be significantly easy for a raid team with there quest all cought up?

    Yes it should be easier for those that completed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexor View Post
    looks like the early answer is no,.. so then the content coming is going to be significantly easy for a raid team with there quest all cought up?
    Of course. But the same is said for those geared to 540+ item levels with fully upgraded heroic thunderforged gear, but we wouldn't call that a "hidden attuenement" either.



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    Will the legendary items be mandatory ? No.

    Are bosses tuned for people with legendary ? Yes, to an extent. It's hard to say by how much but things like meta gems are considered a given at that point so it makes sense to tune bosses accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I make people mad View Post
    Misleading title -.-
    Ish. I mean. What is attunement, but a series of quests that allows you to enter a raid. The OP is suggesting that with the current legendary progression, there are enough gear gapsto warrant raid leaders barring people admittance who haven't completed those quest. If that's the case, I see how the situation could be compared to attunement. If you disagree, that's fine; the guy isn't posting amy videos he made or trying to scam us, so let's not jump to the conclusion that he was misleading intentionally and just roll with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reckles View Post
    Ish. I mean. What is attunement, but a series of quests that allows you to enter a raid. The OP is suggesting that with the current legendary progression, there are enough gear gapsto warrant raid leaders barring people admittance who haven't completed those quest. If that's the case, I see how the situation could be compared to attunement. If you disagree, that's fine; the guy isn't posting amy videos he made or trying to scam us, so let's not jump to the conclusion that he was misleading intentionally and just roll with it.


    you can still enter without the cloak. The cloak has nothing to do with being able to enter it. Not having enough gear is a completely different thing that has nothing to do with attunements.

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    Terrible title.

    I want my mouseclicks back. ;p
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    You can't use the Sha-touched gem in any 5.2-5.4 weapon and the extra gem slot won't work in 5.4 weapons, I don't really think this is a big deal.

    All these Chicken Littles who slacked on the quest line and are now upset are pretty ridiculous. Should have helped make the pie if you wanted to eat some!
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    HM will be balanced around having legendaries, normal won't. Even if it were there's few add fights in the first half of SoO so the dps benefits of the legendary proc won't be overly significant until the later half of the tier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fengosa View Post
    HM will be balanced around having legendaries, normal won't. Even if it were there's few add fights in the first half of SoO so the dps benefits of the legendary proc won't be overly significant until the later half of the tier.

    No it won't. It will be balanced around the HM tier before it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexor View Post
    is the new content tuned to us being cought up in the legendary quest?

    it seems like the advantage of having the xtra stat gem for weapons, meta gem, plus the cloak, and soon the cloak proc,.. all these things combined give a huge significant gap of deeps and performance over people of equal skill without them.

    so if the normal content is tuned to us being cought up in the legendary is it a hidden attunement to do these quest? should raid leaders take the persons place in the quest in to account when recruiting?

    it would seem that a group with out there meta gems or cloak will be at a severe disadvantage over others with them.

    and if its not nesscery having these items for success,.. and if the fights are not attuned to you having cought up on the quest,.. would that mean the fights would be incribly easy for a raid team with the cloaks?
    Deeps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexor View Post
    it seems like the advantage of having the xtra stat gem for weapons, meta gem, plus the cloak, and soon the cloak proc,.. all these things combined give a huge significant gap of deeps and performance over people of equal skill without them.\
    The +500 stat gem is already outdated and can't be used on current weapons. The extra socket is only +160ms or +320os at best so that's nothing to really change your dps in any significant fashion. You do, however, have a point with the meta. Some specs, *cough* Mistweaver *cough*, have their entire stat priority turned upside down because of a trinket and the LMG. The cloak procs themselves, though, won't really make a huge difference on an individual level, but a full raid group with them (including tanks wth the dps cloaks) will have a noticibly easier time on trash if nothing else.

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