View Poll Results: What is your Sub Loss Prediction?

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  • 0-100k Sub Loss

    225 17.08%
  • 100k - 500k Sub Loss

    446 33.86%
  • 500k - 1M Sub Loss

    320 24.30%
  • Greater than 1 Million Sub Loss

    235 17.84%
  • Other

    91 6.91%
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  1. #601
    In the UK a Ltd company releases it's end of year accounts; things like operating profit, dividends, revenue, cost of sale sort of stuff. Does the same apply in the US? I'm not sure what the equivalent is in the US? LLC?

  2. #602
    6,000 per day from 6/30/13 to 9/30/13 is over 500,000 subs, which has been the average since cata went live

    5.4 is going to artificially buffer whatever the number ends up being, but 4th quarter is going to be rough, we'll possibly see over 1,000,000 lost subs

  3. #603
    I expect this quarter to be not too bad (below 300000 loss), but next quarter will be disaster thanks to everyone quitting after killing garrosh in LFR

  4. #604
    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkles View Post
    In the UK a Ltd company releases it's end of year accounts; things like operating profit, dividends, revenue, cost of sale sort of stuff. Does the same apply in the US? I'm not sure what the equivalent is in the US? LLC?
    All companies will compile these reports on a monthly basis a private owned company is under no obligation to release these figures to the public, although in the UK they must file a yearly report with Companies House. Blizzard as a company that has shareholders is obligated to release this information to its shareholders and does so on a quarterly basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    Right?? So lemme get this straight? Blizzard should not step it up to save their game but other developers should so they can copy them in order to save their game? That is possibly the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on these forums.
    Well, to be honest, Xanzul is correct in the fact that Blizzard has never been innovative and just copies/polishes other game companies ideas for WoW not to mention people who make addons ideas as well.
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  6. #606
    Quote Originally Posted by Seefer View Post
    Well, to be honest, Xanzul is correct in the fact that Blizzard has never been innovative and just copies/polishes other game companies ideas for WoW not to mention people who make addons ideas as well.
    as of cata around 200 addons had been implemented into wow. hell even autolooting was an addon first

  7. #607
    Quote Originally Posted by Seefer View Post
    Well, to be honest, Xanzul is correct in the fact that Blizzard has never been innovative and just copies/polishes other game companies ideas for WoW not to mention people who make addons ideas as well.
    I have no issue with that but c'mon saying it is the responsibility of other games' developers to step it up in order to make up for Blizzard's lack of innovation is, well... words fail me!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    I have no issue with that but c'mon saying it is the responsibility of other games' developers to step it up in order to make up for Blizzard's lack of innovation is, well... words fail me!?
    Oh I agree, I am just saying he was right on at least part of it lol
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  9. #609
    Hmm i think i've changed my mind. We wont see a massive drop imo this quarter. Something like -150k max. 5.4 brings back people with lootlisland and connected realms.


    BUT

    The next gen console are coming (wildstar and teso ll hit badly too cuz they have subs = same market), and we wont see an xpac before 6month and everybody looks bored already. I think wow is gonna lose something like a solid Milion before next xpac hits, maybe 2.

    Only way to prevent this is to announce something REALLY BIG at Blizzcon.
    Last edited by Iseeyou; 2013-10-24 at 09:03 PM.

  10. #610
    Quote Originally Posted by Seefer View Post
    Oh I agree, I am just saying he was right on at least part of it lol
    Still, it's funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osmeric View Post
    Still, it's funny.

    Developer: Sorry boss, I can't add new features to save the product, because our competitors haven't done anything for me to copy.

    Boss: Oh that's too bad. But in better news, you're fired!
    Although with the influx of new games there are lots of features to steal, I mean add, like I love fates in FF 14.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seefer View Post
    Although with the influx of new games there are lots of features to steal, I mean add, like I love fates in FF 14.
    Butttttt isn't fates like DE's in GW2 :P

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  13. #613
    Quote Originally Posted by Seefer View Post
    Although with the influx of new games there are lots of features to steal, I mean add, like I love fates in FF 14.
    In which case that is even worse, the competition has stepped up their game yet Blizzard has failed to copy them.

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    5.4 will artificially boost Q3. Q4 is gonna have massive losses.

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    Just for reminder

  16. #616
    Yeah, to the ground baby!

    Pandas are gonna be the biggest loser out of all expaks.

    Rofl

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShimmerSwirl View Post
    5.4 will artificially boost Q3. Q4 is gonna have massive losses.
    Debatable. I realize this is anecdotal but I know of no one who said gee let me resubscribe for a new raid I don't give a fuck about.
    The hammer comes down:
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    Normal should be reduced in difficulty. Heroic should be reduced in difficulty.
    And the tiny fraction for whom heroic raids are currently well tuned? Too bad,so sad! With the arterial bleed of subs the fastest it's ever been, the vanity development that gives you guys your own content is no longer supportable.

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    I think it might be 5 to 10 trillion in sub loss.
    Feels just as accurate as any other predictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious Leader View Post
    Debatable. I realize this is anecdotal but I know of no one who said gee let me resubscribe for a new raid I don't give a fuck about.
    I'm resubbing to load in the hearthstone beta mount....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious Leader View Post
    Debatable. I realize this is anecdotal but I know of no one who said gee let me resubscribe for a new raid I don't give a fuck about.
    I've seen quite a good number of posts on here and the battle.net forums of people who resubbed just to raid SoO, or at least experience it.
    And you're implying they don't give a fuck about SoO or whatever raid at current.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pebrocks The Warlock View Post
    I've seen quite a good number of posts on here and the battle.net forums of people who resubbed just to raid SoO, or at least experience it.
    And you're implying they don't give a fuck about SoO or whatever raid at current.
    Christ I could swore I said it was anecdotal. But yes you have one piece of anecdotal evidence and so do I. By the laws of immutable transmutation we're tied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osmeric View Post
    Normal should be reduced in difficulty. Heroic should be reduced in difficulty.
    And the tiny fraction for whom heroic raids are currently well tuned? Too bad,so sad! With the arterial bleed of subs the fastest it's ever been, the vanity development that gives you guys your own content is no longer supportable.

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