John Breech @johnbreech
Super Bowl security at the Malcolm Smith press conference giving the same effort as the Broncos tonight.
Can't believe the Superbowl game last night. What a complete blowout.
I kept reassuring my Denver friends that hey, maybe Manning will get it going at some point...after the missed snap...after the INT...after the opening kickoff return TD...
I knew Seattle had a good defense, I did not expect them to completely shutdown Peyton Manning. He could move the ball, but not when it mattered most. The game was over midway through the 3rd quarter, a complete mirror version of last year where the AFC dominated the NFC team except the 49ers scored more then 8 points.
Just wow. Good for the Seahawks, got their first ring finally. We will see how they do next year.
i honestly felt that it was the entire teams fault they lost. they all played like shit. but to just peg that on peyton or the offense is retarded.
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the defense played really well in the first half, keeping seahawks out of the endzone twice on two short fields. They only gave up 13 points in the first half, the other 9 points came off the safety and defensive touch down.
Now the second half was a different story, but then again I think after the kick off return it just completely destroyed denver's will and they never came back out to play.
how are people saying Pete Carroll is only the third coach to win both a BCS title and also the Super Bowl? Thats a lie. I pulled the previous BCS winners and there is no USC at all anywhere other than the loss to Texas in 2005. I hope they arent talking about the win over Oklahoma in 2004 because that win is vacated so it never happened.
Post-game grades for Denver since I had an opportunity to look through some stuff:
Offensive line play was atrocious and Manning made some bad decisions. Receivers actually didn't have too much a problem getting open, especially Welker and Julius THomas, but it was all for naught since they uncharacteristically never got the ball. Demaryius Thomas played well, but he wasn't the only one getting open. Run game looked like it could have got somewhere, but they got away from that quickly (more on that).
Defense: B- first half, F second half.
First half wasn't bad at all. Marshawn Lynch was neutralized (Pot Roast > offensive linemen), Danny Trevathan stopped him three times one-on-one (unreal to see what this dude will be like next year), and even though they gave up some yardage and third-down conversions, at the end of the day they gave the offense two possessions to get something going, which is what you want from a defense. After that Percy Harvin return at the beginning of the half, though, they gave up entirely. It didn't really matter anyways, and they knew it. That touchdown by Kearse was the product of a defense that doesn't care anymore, and ohhh man was it pathetic.
Special Teams: F
That Harvin return was devastating. The return game for Denver was anemic.
Coaching: F, negative grades if that were even possible
Absolutely terrible. Beyond terrible. Where to begin? Lack of discipline all around. Miscue that leads to a safety on the first play of the game. Missed tackles. Have a kicker with the best leg in the league, and have him pooch a kickoff rather than kick it out of the endzone like he does every kickoff. Don't put up a field goal at the end of the half. Run the ball on third-and-ten. Punt from Seattle's 39 yardline. Give up on a run game that was actually able to punch it through for 3+ yards on most plays. Have a record-setting offense with the most talented playmakers in the league look outclassed at the most fundamental level. Missed tackles everywhere on defense. Look defeated after a return in the second half.
Gotta give Seattle credit where it's due, their defense was flying around making plays, and they were absolutely up for the task of playing in the superbowl. On the flip side, Denver played its worst game in two years, in terms of execution, cohesion, and control. Seattle was going to win this game even if their offense and special teams didn't score a single point. Denver was just that bad.
Well I agree that he benefits from playing in Denver, I'm not sure that touchback rate is the best way to measure leg strength. In fact, if you had a kicker with great leg strength, their goal wouldn't be just to kick it out of the back of the endzone, it would be to get a tremendous amount of hang time on their kick, but land it around the 5 yard line. This gives your coverage team plenty of time to get down the field and likely stop the returner before he can get to the 20. Here the touchback rate is 0%, but infinitely more effective than a touchback.
If you weren't a bandwagoner, you'd already know that.
I had different ways I'd want to write my thoughts, but honestly this game was what I expected. I knew that winning the NFC would be much harder than winning the super bowl. The 9ers were much better than any of the divisional AFC teams. One thing that surprises me, while Pete Carroll is a very loose coach, the team remains highly disciplined while on big stages like that. That discipline is fueled by individual goals of the players, it seems like. Wanting to prove the naysayers wrong. They did last night, and for any doubt that remains is just ignorance.
Ahahha, Sherman said that after his first ankle injury the coaching staff made him go out as reputation in order to deter Manning.
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is it just me or is it easy as hell to get into the NFL HoF compared to MLB? Dont they let like 5 people in every year? NFL network has 3-4 HoFers on their major shows with a few more soon to be inducted like Kurt Warner, LT, and TD. ESPN has CC and Mike Ditka. I dont think MLB network has anyone in the HoF (well unless you count Peter Gammons although technically he isnt in the Hall) and ESPN only has Dave Winfield. I remember Harold Reynolds talking about how it was more special than the NFL hall because so few players in MLB get in each year. You can argue many players got snubbed in MLB but it seems like everyone gets into the NFL hall.
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For awhile there it looked like Manning was taking my advice and channeling Roethlisberger from his super bowl game against Seattle
also there are ~9 guys on the Broncos defense that don't know how to tackle, so they were real ugly in every facet of the game
the super bowl was worth it for all the MANNINGFACE ohhhhh there was much manningface
I'd say the odds of Seattle repeating next season are as good as any other team in history.
Not saying its going to happen...but they aren't losing anyone...they're only going to be better now.
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Then again, the seahawks played their best game in history.
Denver played their worst game in history they just forget how to play and they forgot everything. Sad.
They just lost the game after the first snap.
And for the Seahwks repeating the same ?
Well, I just think they had a good season but with weird result, they almost lost to Houston, they struggle against the Rams and the Titans ( wtf). The Colts beat them.
But yes, maybe they struggle in december, but they are definitely a January team. And the most important result are in January
Well, at least 1 good thing. They televised the superbowl here live again for the first time in 10 years or so on the new fox channel. With such a crap game not many people want to watch it again so good chances we will get gamepass for free again next season.