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    It's funny you mention bombing, because using a nuclear weapon on Mars to gain access to sub-surface ice and shelter is an entirely legitmate and effective way to start building infrastructure on the planet.

    It's been seriously explored by NASA in the past, and I'm sure will come up again. Because when not used to target enemies, what is a nuclear weapon? A really big explosion. And unless you're ready to ship thousands upon of tons of TNT and two dzen 60 ton Mining Construction vehicles to Mars, using a 500 pound nuclear weapon to do your hole digging for you makes a whole lot of sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroesec View Post
    It's funny you mention bombing, because using a nuclear weapon on Mars to gain access to sub-surface ice and shelter is an entirely legitmate and effective way to start building infrastructure on the planet.

    It's been seriously explored by NASA in the past, and I'm sure will come up again. Because when not used to target enemies, what is a nuclear weapon? A really big explosion. And unless you're ready to ship thousands upon of tons of TNT and two dzen 60 ton Mining Construction vehicles to Mars, using a 500 pound nuclear weapon to do your hole digging for you makes a whole lot of sense.
    Yes, poisoning the ground with radiation for 30 years looks like a legit way start a colony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroesec View Post
    It's funny you mention bombing, because using a nuclear weapon on Mars to gain access to sub-surface ice and shelter is an entirely legitmate and effective way to start building infrastructure on the planet.

    It's been seriously explored by NASA in the past, and I'm sure will come up again. Because when not used to target enemies, what is a nuclear weapon? A really big explosion. And unless you're ready to ship thousands upon of tons of TNT and two dzen 60 ton Mining Construction vehicles to Mars, using a 500 pound nuclear weapon to do your hole digging for you makes a whole lot of sense.
    Using a nuke could be a good plan, but there is a setback even to that plan, namely the radiation such a blast would cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djalil View Post
    You bombed the moon as well?!
    XD
    my exact thoghts

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    -sir, we believe that there is no water on the moon

    -ok, let's test it

    -but sir, there is no oil there as well

    -ok, then we can bomb.

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    It's been a while since I've read about the moon and the latest account was from a book made in the 1950's. But according to my source wasn't the Moon created from Earth during it's molten stage which wouldn't carry any water what so ever? The surface of the Earth where the crust is missing (Oceans) is actually what created the Moon? Large molten waves torn by the Suns gravitational pull eventually shot molten lead,iron etc into space where it revolved around the earth until it combined to form the Moon. And as the Earth cooled, the water vapor that was surrounding the Earth started to fall over millions of years which eventually filled up our Oceans?
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    If the moon was ever to be colonized, it would not be for practical reasons, but for experimental reasons. And it would be done in a time of great abundance. People wont live on the moon the same way they might someday live on Mars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post

    This has implications for potential lunar bases, as they wouldn't have local access to a water supply, therefore making permanent occupied establishments less viable.

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    Wait a second you would drink moon water if there was ice on the moon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    Wait a second you would drink moon water if there was ice on the moon?
    Yes, by the cubic meters of them. Why would it be a problem to drink the ice of the moon if there is some?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruthless View Post
    Yes, by the cubic meters of them. Why would it be a problem to drink the ice of the moon if there is some?
    Wouldnt it be full of radiation and nasty stuff? Since the moon doesnt really have a field to protect itself from space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    Wait a second you would drink moon water if there was ice on the moon?
    You see how much people pay for earth water? Just think of how much they will fork out for moon water!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    Wouldnt it be full of radiation and nasty stuff? Since the moon doesnt really have a field to protect itself from space.
    Couple of Brita filters...job done.

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    If you see a Space Dumpster over there. Just leave it alone. Last thing we need is Rita Repulsa and Putin trying to conquer Earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    Wouldnt it be full of radiation and nasty stuff? Since the moon doesnt really have a field to protect itself from space.
    -facepalm-

    That's now how radiation works.
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    I can see humanity colonising the moon as a test to see if can actually do it, as if we can do it their, then we can do anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruthless View Post
    Yes, by the cubic meters of them. Why would it be a problem to drink the ice of the moon if there is some?
    Maybe bacteria foreign pathogens I have no idea but I wouldn't drink it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    Maybe bacteria foreign pathogens I have no idea but I wouldn't drink it.
    That's why we invented le filter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    That's why we invented le filter.
    The one that filters earth water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    The one that filters earth water.
    What makes you think it would not work on moon water?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    What makes you think it would not work on moon water?
    I don't know since I don't have moon water.
    Would you try it with out anyone testing it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    -facepalm-

    That's now how radiation works.
    Sorry Professor Didactic, with your PhD in useful responses would you like to enlighten us as to how cosmic rays work?

    Or is it more beneficial to the coversation to have your dig and water the high horse.

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