1. #3921
    Quote Originally Posted by Deja Thoris View Post
    Reasonable human beings with functioning brains?

    It's the very definition of an exploit, using something unintended to gain an unfair advantage. The fact that Blizz turned a blind eye to it doesn't make it any less of an exploit. Anyway, the guild(s) that did this kinda reached their skillcap didn't they?
    Well blizzard bans and loot/achievements removals are the only possible punishment for this kind of exploits, so it kinda makes sense.
    A ban would mean they actually cheated, a fix sounds like blizzard saying "Ooops, my bad".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulkovius View Post
    No we didnt use the "exploit" although we thought about it when we got him the second time. After all we decided not to, dont wanna risk anything and we got a good plan for the rotation of dpsers up there it seems.
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    It's easily possible using the pipes. We had well over half a minute to spare for enrage on the first week and we had two separate groups for the belt.
    ah i see, thanks for clearing that up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyqu View Post
    both strats take out all of the bosses mechanics.
    i really don't care if blizzard bans them or not, its a blatant exploit.

    again i will ask, but word it differently for you.. how do you not consider this an exploit.
    Standing under boss = exploit. Rofl

    Imo its only an exploit when you need 3rd party tools to do it. Anything else is fail from devs/testers and should not be punished by bans (item rollback in extreme cases, not someting stupid like this).

  4. #3924
    Quote Originally Posted by BergErr View Post
    Standing under boss = exploit. Rofl

    Imo its only an exploit when you need 3rd party tools to do it. Anything else is fail from devs/testers and should not be punished by bans (item rollback in extreme cases, not someting stupid like this).
    Do you think it was intended to avoid all boss-mechanics by simply standing under it? And you dont think thats exploiting a unintended bug? People have lost their abilities to think it seems.
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  5. #3925
    Quote Originally Posted by BergErr View Post
    Imo its only an exploit when you need 3rd party tools to do it. Anything else is fail from devs/testers and should not be punished by bans.
    So Exodus Yogg0 kill was legit after all...

  6. #3926
    Quote Originally Posted by Catersu View Post
    So Exodus Yogg0 kill was legit after all...

    sure was

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trollfaced View Post
    Do you think it was intended to avoid all boss-mechanics by simply standing under it? And you dont think thats exploiting a unintended bug? People have lost their abilities to think it seems.
    Probably not intended, though afaik blizz said ppl dont usually find the optimal ways to kill bosses. This seems like a case where ppl did.
    Monk bug in ToT didn't get punished and that allowed for full clears

  8. #3928
    Quote Originally Posted by noskillz View Post
    I think I can't remember a "race" stagnating for so long. No new kills on top in the last 2 nights, still 3 guilds at 13/14 on 10m, and 5 on 25m... and everyone else follows.
    They obviously slowed down a bit, but looks to me everyone hit their skillcap block there, and need to overgear the fight: they had many hours of tries last week plus an entire lockout worth of gear.
    Those last 3 bosses are brutal... Oh the drama possibilities! Guild-killing spree incoming.
    This is a very relevant point...in any previous race, there would have been a bunch of guilds getting to 12/14 and 13/14 now that they got more gear. Of course, more kills will come, it's just unusually slow.

    It's particularly funny in the 10-man bracket. You have guilds from Finland/Finland/Sweden who are the only ones able to push 13/14 (maybe you need to live north enough to have the required skill, don't know ). Then you have 3 German guilds (and only them) who are able to push 12/14. And then the rest of the US/EU- servers on 11/14 tops.

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    This is the point where clever use of game mechanics and exploits come into play.

    Look back at the world first KJ kill.
    The world first 25 HM Nef (BWD)
    Leo the blind, tanking with a warlock to ignore p2. again you ignore 100% of what the boss does for that whole phase.

    Even ra-den..you ignore everything at 40% and just dps the boss. you are "ignoring a boss mechanic" or using a player ability to bypass a boss ability.

    Rogue vanish in Wrath? professor putricide?
    Hunters snake traps

    It may be a type of exploit but if you dont get banned for it, fuck all anyone can do about it but rule it as "clever use of game mechanics"

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    World 2nd Garrosh 25 heroic kill by Star/Keahoarl

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    Quote Originally Posted by linyucobet View Post
    World 2nd Garrosh 25 heroic kill by Star/Keahoarl
    Now only thing left is US 25 1st

  12. #3932
    Quote Originally Posted by BergErr View Post
    Standing under boss = exploit. Rofl

    Imo its only an exploit when you need 3rd party tools to do it. Anything else is fail from devs/testers and should not be punished by bans (item rollback in extreme cases, not someting stupid like this).
    An exploit is when you use a bug to your advantage.
    The boss not doing ANYTHING when you position yourself correctly is a bug.
    If you use that bug, you are exploiting.

  13. #3933
    Quote Originally Posted by T Man View Post
    Now only thing left is US 25 1st
    And west 1st 10man

  14. #3934
    Quote Originally Posted by linyucobet View Post
    World 2nd Garrosh 25 heroic kill by Star/Keahoarl
    No mentions of it anywhere.
    UPD: Seen the killshot.
    Last edited by Megraam; 2013-10-03 at 11:49 AM.

  15. #3935
    Quote Originally Posted by linyucobet View Post
    World 2nd Garrosh 25 heroic kill by Star/Keahoarl
    http://img6.nga.178.com/attachments/...d5929afbef.jpg
    Last edited by linyucobet; 2013-10-03 at 11:49 AM.

  16. #3936
    gratz Stars/Keahoarl for world 2nd 25H Garrosh kill!!!
    did bit research, stars/keahoarl had a pretty close try before server went down yesterday, they extended lockout to get the kill after server maintenance today.

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    Last edited by oysterwjc; 2013-10-03 at 12:11 PM.

  17. #3937
    Quote Originally Posted by oysterwjc View Post
    gratz Stars/Keahoarl for world 2nd 25H Garrosh kill!!!
    did bit research, stars/keahoarl had a pretty close try before server went down yesterday, they extended lockout to get the kill after server maintenance today.
    Very interesting after what we've heard about garrosh being quite the gear check.

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    看来你遇到了一个企鹅,你可以后退访问其他页面或报告管理员
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    Grats to Stars/Keahoarl !!!!!
    The link is not working tho :P
    But I do read the thread on NGA about this Asia 25man first down. confirmed!

  20. #3940
    Quote Originally Posted by Yakshamash View Post
    看来你遇到了一个企鹅,你可以后退访问其他页面或报告管理员
    HTTP Error 403 - Forbidden!
    China ftw. Only people from China are allowed to click that link.

    Gratz Stars!

    Even when they had +8 Itemlevel and 8% HP is not 100% the same (7 Itemlevel would be a bit better), they are still better than Blood Legion.
    Blood Legion has at the moment +3 more Itemlevel than Method at their Kill, making it a true 25man World 2nd/Asia First Kill and nobody should complaim about +8 Itemlevel!
    Also, to my knowledge, they did not raid 10man HC, just in case somebody is asking.
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