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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrannica View Post
    Sylvanas isn't remotely evil. She doesn't need to take orders cause she is the queen in her realm and the warchief is just a meaningless title. She has an alliance with the horde thats all, she is still the superior leader of her realm and the forsaken.

    Even the plague at the wrathgate was not her but Purtress work.

    Developing secret weapons, defending her borders at silverpine against the worgen and not taking orders doesn't make her suddenly an evil spawn. The scourge however is evil. A long way to get there for sylvanas and their rather neutral forsaken.(while they are neutral they are a bit odd to the living)
    She is responsible for war crimes and forcibly raising people to join her in eternal torment against their will.

    She is torturing that death knight in under city currently, and whilst the alliance are helping her out in orgrimmar she's raising their dead troops behind their backs

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    Quote Originally Posted by wych View Post
    She is responsible for war crimes and forcibly raising people to join her in eternal torment against their will.
    Are you this upset about other forms of procreation? 2 sides to every coin.
    BAD WOLF

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    The Horde literally went Hitler on Theramore and slaughtered her people. Time to Nuremberg trial and lynch them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlosdanger View Post
    The Horde literally went Hitler on Theramore and slaughtered her people. Time to Nuremberg trial and lynch them.
    mixed metaphors.

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    you can't try *AND* lynch someone.

    and 'nuremburg trial' is not a verb
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    Quote Originally Posted by wych View Post
    She is responsible for war crimes and forcibly raising people to join her in eternal torment against their will.

    She is torturing that death knight in under city currently, and whilst the alliance are helping her out in orgrimmar she's raising their dead troops behind their backs
    Sylvannus isn't necessarily evil as she is completely lacking compassion. Endure what she has and see what kind of person you are at the end of it. Like all forsaken, she was bound to the will of Arthas. During that she was forced to endure and do things anathema to her many times over. Its left deep scars. Now, imagine going through that and by sheer willpower alone, breaking free of Arthas only to be treated as a monster by your kinsmen and people and driven away. Bitterness would almost certainly take root. Forsaken fall every day and there's no procreation among the undead, so how else are they going to sustain themselves except by assimilating the very people trying to destroy them? I have a forsaken warlock, its not so bad being undead, honestly. Being devoid of compassion gives him a particularly quirky twist on his perception of things and gives him a weird if not violent sense of humor.

    Now... as far as Jaina... She isn't evil, but she's damn near the line on it. Thrall was present when she tried to loose Wrynn on the leaders present. We thought she was his friend, apparently something has changed. She was very supportive of a just and sustainable peace between the races of the horde and alliance, now thats all changed? Perhaps bitterness he's now married to Aggra and has a child with her? Perhaps some aspect of the Y'sarj dwells in her like it does Garrosh? I dunno, but I was a little shocked when she tried to essentially start an open war with the horde while everyone was counting the dead and wondering what next. Something's not right here.
    I'm rolling a Blunt Elf... That's a high-elf that likes to party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbombard View Post
    Because getting angry after people destroy your own city, and people you trust betray is so unrealistic. What were they thinking, everybody knows that real people just turn the other cheek because that is the right thing to do.

    /sarcasm

    Jaina finally being angry with the untrustworthy back stabbing horde is one of the few realistic bits of story in the whole xpack. Frankly though the story fizzled out mid way when they went soft with her plot line.
    Did you even read tides of war?
    The jaina at the end is not the jaina in orgrimmar.
    Add Alpha female worgen as an option ^^!

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    I hate you for the title of this thread! Don't spoil stuff on thread titles!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlosdanger View Post
    The Horde literally went Hitler on Theramore and slaughtered her people. Time to Nuremberg trial and lynch them.
    Theramore was razed and rightfully so. Jaina was in charge of the place, so she had every authority to stop the alliance from building a road for siege equipment to the Barrens and letting her city be used as a launching point for an invasion of indisputably horde territory. Theramore was never accosted under Thrall because he wanted it to be a symbol that horde and alliance could coexist and as a possible place where negotiations could be held for a permanent peace. When she allowed the port to be used as an invasion foothold, she made Theramore a priority to eliminate for Garrosh, not that he needed much of one in regards to removing the largest alliance base on Kalimdor. He in some way, did the horde a huge favor doing that. Her complicity makes the massacre at Camp Turajo as much her responsibility as Wrynn for ordering it. FFS, it wasn't even a military garrison, it was a trading outpost. Surely those traders and craftspeople deserved to be mercilessly slaughtered for their leatherworking and blacksmithing activities.
    I'm rolling a Blunt Elf... That's a high-elf that likes to party.

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    Siege of Dalaran next expansion? We already raided a Horde city, may as well raid an Alliance one too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wych View Post
    She is responsible for war crimes and forcibly raising people to join her in eternal torment against their will.

    She is torturing that death knight in under city currently, and whilst the alliance are helping her out in orgrimmar she's raising their dead troops behind their backs
    its not like these are all innocent civilians. The scourge wouldn't care about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlacidGladiator View Post
    I have a forsaken warlock, its not so bad being undead, honestly.
    Who hasn't an undead lock?^^ But, well who likes holes in his tier set....i dunno. Wished there would be more dark ranger sylvanna style forsaken to play around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evyan View Post
    Did you even read tides of war?
    The jaina at the end is not the jaina in orgrimmar.
    games and novels just don't like each other. Even books and movies don't come along, what did you honestly expect here?

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    games and novels just don't like each other. Even books and movies don't come along, what did you honestly expect here?
    I dunno... visit from the Continuity Police?
    I'm rolling a Blunt Elf... That's a high-elf that likes to party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunchbox2042 View Post
    Siege of Dalaran next expansion? We already raided a Horde city, may as well raid an Alliance one too.
    Siege of Ironforge would be interesting, cause its difficult to besiege that one.

    Certainly that dark iron dwarf woman will take over. Cause in wow all womens are evil spawns.
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