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  • I'm Horde and I hate it

    197 14.88%
  • I'm Horde and I like it

    705 53.25%
  • I'm Alliance and I hate it

    78 5.89%
  • I'm Alliance and I like it

    344 25.98%
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  1. #201
    Vol'jin has literally done nothing making him worthy of this title.

    He made a rebellion, woo, well, he wasn't able to rescue his people. Even when he returned to sen'jin, he just stood by well Thrall and Chen faught off the kor'kohn.
    You know who it was fighting to take back undercity in wrath days well vol'jin sat outside and did nothing? Thrall and Sylvanas.

    For years, Vol'jins done nothing but stand around in grommash hold. He's not done anything worthy to validate this. And honestly, all this feels like it was done for shock value, almost as if the devs were saying 'here, we're show you we can choose someone else beside an orc', and thats it.

    Maybe if the developers had spent more time developing him over the years, instead of just paying a writer to write a novel for him, and claim that as development (which from all accounts, it had nothing in it as far as development went for vol'jin) then maybe I might have felt far less diappointed in this.
    Seriously, Rexxar has done more for the horde then vol'jin.
    Trassk, you got to calm yourself... I know how much this hurt for all of us that follows the horde, but keep in mind AT LEAST he's one of the most loyal Horde member. He always fought against he own kindsmen, he refused to accept Zalazanes invitation, instead he stood against him. Everything in his heart, there is one thing... For the horde.

    With that said, having orcish warchief would be alot more ideal, but all we can do (just like the past), see how this unfolds. Maybe it's him the horde needs right now, maybe we need his wisdom. Only time will tell.


    Edit: Don't you guys dare to quoute me from my earlier post !!

  2. #202
    Sooo many tears! I could fill a swimming pool!

    I'm gonna do what a few people have done already and break things down:

    Lor'themar: He's still too.. well... underdeveloped. In Pandaria they started giving him a bigger roll, and that was awesome.. but he didn't have as much action or development as the other characters.
    Sylvanas: She is already on thin ice with the rest of the horde because of all the 'plague' and 'valkyrie' non-sense.. her only TRUE supporters would be the undead... one race.
    Baine: As much as I'd love to see a Tauren as Warchief... he's too inexperienced (and underdeveloped as a character).
    Gallywix: Well, what happened to the LAST people he ruled over?
    Thrall: He's washed up, done with leading the horde, and you all know it. He's leading the WOOORLD now. (besides, I bet there would be more crying if they just went with THRALL again)
    Nazgrim: Why would they put a comparatively minor (possible inexperienced (Edit: Wait, just remembered Garrosh)) character on the throne? Especially one that was such a supporter of Garrosh.
    Saurfang: They've said it once. He's too OLD. Also, have we even seen him since Wrath?

    Any non horde: No, just no.
    Anyone else: Who? Gamon? No one else has enough screen time to be a horde leader!



    So yeah, breaking it all Down, Vol'jin is the most logical choice. Even if it is "Boring" or "Obvious" as a few of you said, I am happy that's what they went with, as opposed to some.. curveball.

  3. #203
    Quote Originally Posted by Earthstar View Post
    Sooo many tears! I could fill a swimming pool!

    I'm gonna do what a few people have done already and break things down:

    Lor'themar: He's still too.. well... underdeveloped. In Pandaria they started giving him a bigger roll, and that was awesome.. but he didn't have as much action or development as the other characters.
    Sylvanas: She is already on thin ice with the rest of the horde because of all the 'plague' and 'valkyrie' non-sense.. her only TRUE supporters would be the undead... one race.
    Baine: As much as I'd love to see a Tauren as Warchief... he's too inexperienced (and underdeveloped as a character).
    Gallywix: Well, what happened to the LAST people he ruled over?
    Thrall: He's washed up, done with leading the horde, and you all know it. He's leading the WOOORLD now. (besides, I bet there would be more crying if they just went with THRALL again)
    Nazgrim: Why would they put a comparatively minor (possible inexperienced (Edit: Wait, just remembered Garrosh)) character on the throne? Especially one that was such a supporter of Garrosh.
    Saurfang: They've said it once. He's too OLD. Also, have we even seen him since Wrath?

    Any non horde: No, just no.
    Anyone else: Who? Gamon? No one else has enough screen time to be a horde leader!



    So yeah, breaking it all Down, Vol'jin is the most logical choice. Even if it is "Boring" or "Obvious" as a few of you said, I am happy that's what they went with, as opposed to some.. curveball.

    Thrall was the obvious choice. The wash up part is just a bad decision from Blizzard in an expansion we are all trying to forget. Even with that, he was STILL a much better choice than Vol'jin, who has done NOTHING to be Warchief and is just a watered down version of Thrall.

    You dont fix a bad decision (Thrall's showing all every two steps in Cata) with another bad decision (making the watered down version of Thrall Warchief instead of the true Warchief, the one Vol'jin knew it was, the one Varian knew it was).
    Thrall always was, is, and will be my true Warchief. Garrosh and Vol'jin werent/arent.

  4. #204
    At least the ending was better than "There must always be an angry orc warchief." I thought Vol'Jin was the most logical choice, half of the characters people are upset about Blizz not picking for warchief are stupid ass choices to begin with as a lot of them are underdeveloped characters or characters the rest of the horde would have issues following, Vol'Jin is a character any horde player knows pretty well from over the years, he's always been there.
    Last edited by PBitt; 2013-09-12 at 05:12 PM.

  5. #205
    Vol'jin looks cool. Who cares about Anduin Wrynn lore now. I hope new race model update will make trolls look like Vol'jin! And he's tall. Tall people are respected. Jah man!

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    I am a big fan of leaders who are humble and reluctant to take the reins of power, but will do so for the greater good of their country/army/Horde, etc., and so I kinda like this. I hate that Troll-theme is the go-to thing for Blizzard, but this is still kinda cool. I think it was obvious when Voljin got a new model.

    I couldnt tell if Voljin had a smirk like "haha I finally got it! Time to usher in a new Troll-topia!" or if thats just the way his ugly troll face looks, but still, this leaves a lot of cool story development in the future.

    I think the other possible choices were weak compared to Voljin, and still, it feels weird having a troll Warchief. I think it gives the orcs a good reason to step up to the plate and earn the dominant position back in their own damn Horde.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PBitt View Post
    At least the ending was better than "There must always be an angry orc warchief." I thought Vol'Jin was the most logical choice, half of the characters people are upset about Blizz not picking for warchief are stupid ass choices to begin with as a lot of them are underdeveloped characters or characters the rest of the horde would have issues following, Vol'Jin is a character any horde player knows pretty well from over the years, he's always been there.
    This indeed. Every other choice other than Vol'jin and Thrall are underdeveloped for it, even Lor'themar when you put him in comparison to the other two. So it was always between Thrall and Vol'jin, and personally, I like Vol'jin a lot over Thrall. Thrall's morals were really lacking in this end cinematic, and he constantly looked like he had something stuck up his ass. I don't want to follow some grumpy old green boogieman who is way too busy being a family man either way. Doesn't matter if he's an Orc, Troll, Tauren, or even an Undead, Blood Elf or Goblin, he doesn't need to be a specific race to be someone you want to follow.

  8. #208
    Hard to respect a leader who can't speak in full sentences or stand upright.

  9. #209
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    As a long-suffering WoW addict, I've had plenty of time to play on both sides of the fence. The past 18 months have been strictly Alliance for me, in no small part due to the aggression and hubris of Garrosh.

    I don't like Wrynn either, but he was the lesser of two evils.

    Vol'jin has me rerolling Horde once again, and it feels good man.

  10. #210
    If you hate vol'jin then get off horde and go play ally so i can kill you

  11. #211
    Well, I'm happy that Garrosh still lives. But I don't like Vol'jin and I'm glad I unsubbed for this patch. No longer is the franchise about Orcs vs Humans, so they've alienated me.

    It's really Blizzard's fault for making these controversial choices, to mess up their winning formula like that. They've already admitted that they didn't expect Mists of Pandaria to be such a controversy, but it turned out ot be. And this new Warchief and stepping away from the core formula that is 'Orcs vs Humans' is just another one of those choices. They shouldn't be surprised that people quit if they change things up that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imoldgreg View Post
    If you hate vol'jin then get off horde and go play ally so i can kill you
    The Alliance is no alternative, best option is to just quit the game. GG

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    Wasn't surprised in the least that it was Vol'jin. Things should be interesting from here on out now that we have a non-Orc Warchief.

  13. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by Hardstyler01 View Post
    Well, I'm happy that Garrosh still lives. But I don't like Vol'jin and I'm glad I unsubbed for this patch. No longer is the franchise about Orcs vs Humans, so they've alienated me.

    It's really Blizzard's fault for making these controversial choices, to mess up their winning formula like that. They've already admitted that they didn't expect Mists of Pandaria to be such a controversy, but it turned out ot be. And this new Warchief and stepping away from the core formula that is 'Orcs vs Humans' is just another one of those choices. They shouldn't be surprised that people quit if they change things up that much.

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    The Alliance is no alternative, best option is to just quit the game. GG
    quit over lore? LOL

  14. #214
    Vol'jin is a far the best joice. if they would have made this uggly blood elf to warchief i would have instantly faction changed back to alliance!

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    I don't hate that decision so much, but if Horde really becomes so pleading and bent on knees before Alliance I'm rerolling. I loved Garrosh for his bloodthirst and war-feeling between Alliance and Horde. Yea I get the idea that Blizzard probably wants them united against some yet unknown enemy (Legion?) but if that happens then... fuck no...
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  16. #216
    Quote Originally Posted by Restors View Post
    With that said, having orcish warchief would be alot more ideal, but all we can do (just like the past), see how this unfolds. Maybe it's him the horde needs right now, maybe we need his wisdom. Only time will tell.
    The only thing Vol'jin can do that makes me happy is if he dies next expansion so we can consider a serious Warchief. That would probably get me to resub again, considering the next expansion isn't another lighthearted childrens expansion.

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    Im alliance and this makes me want to return to the horde. I havent wanted to play horde since 4.0.
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  18. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by Hardstyler01 View Post
    The only thing Vol'jin can do that makes me happy is if he dies next expansion so we can consider a serious Warchief. That would probably get me to resub again, considering the next expansion isn't another lighthearted childrens expansion.
    someone hasnt been paying much attention to the story, and i found that person^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorlas View Post
    I hate it, just hate it. A troll is leading my beloved Horde, a troll who conspired with the Alliance, unbelievable. Orgrim must be rolling over in his grave right now....

    Blizz could have chosen anyone and it would have been better, Baine, Theron, Saurfang, Nazgrel, heck freakin' Aggra. Still can't Thrall passed the mantle to him...
    Den let Orgrim roll in his grave brudda, da Darkspear be runnin' tings now!


    Although I do wonder who the Orc racial leader is gonna be? Green Jeezus could be it, but I'd like to see Saurfang personally.
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  20. #220
    Quote Originally Posted by Imoldgreg View Post
    quit over lore? LOL
    Yes, I think it's a valid reason. It's the lore that kept me playing from Warcraft 1 up till now. I know I'm an exception, but I just don't see the appeal in throwing more money at Blizzard for basically getting the same content each expansion only with a slightly different flavour graphics wise. Game mechanics haven't changed much from Vanilla to now, if you've raided hardcore in Vanilla then there isn't really anything new to enjoy with raiding today.

    What else is there to play for? Items that become obsolete again with each new patch and each new expansion? No, I get far more joy out of lore than out of items.
    So sure, I'm probably an exception. But to laugh at my reason? Pfff.

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