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  1. #41
    This is what I see happening in 5.5, almost like the beginning of Skyrim. They are having the Garrosh trail and there is going to be some sort of harsh sentence against him. All of a sudden out of no where, either the Legion or the Naga attack and everyone tries to escape the destruction these creatures are causing. While that happens, Garrosh escapes and makes his own "Iron Horde" or some other faction and stays underground for a while.

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Benno View Post
    What if our player character gets to be the one to execute Garrosh?
    Then i would cancel my subscription.

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    thats actually a point. Every warchief before, the only way the mantle has passed on, is either in death, or willing to pass it on. Garrosh is not dead, and he wouldn't ever willingly pass it on.
    so, since he's alive, wouldn't that just mean vol'jin is not able to claim it?
    Garrosh got bested in combat, that's how warchief's get toppled. Although... Vol'jin didn't do it so we have a rightful claim for leadership. But ya know, fuck the lore. Also to anyone who thinks Garrosh will die at the end of the trial he wont. If they were gonna kill him off they would have killed him in Siege not some side quest trial bullshit. He's got a part to play, what part I have no idea.
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  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Bulletnips View Post
    Garrosh got bested in combat, that's how warchief's get toppled. Although... Vol'jin didn't do it so we have a rightful claim for leadership. But ya know, fuck the lore. Also to anyone who thinks Garrosh will die at the end of the trail he wont. If they were gonna kill him off they would have killed him in Siege not some side quest trial bullshit. He's got a part to play, what part I have no idea.
    Exactly.

    There not gonna take the satisfaction from killing him away from the players just to have NPC's kill him later. Garrosh will continue on for the foreseeable future.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by checking facts View Post
    the end of this has not happened yet.

    I'm gonna bet garrosh will be publicly executed in pandaria.
    Doesn't sound like a very panda thing to do though. More like hours of having to hear Cho blab away at him hoping to reform him. In 6.1, we'll find Garrosh pulling weeds and tending to his carrots, rejoicing in meditation every evening.

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    they also said garrosh would die at the end of this, so I'm no longer inclined to believe a word they say.
    Even before Mists of Pandaria was released and when people first learned that Garrosh would be the end boss, Metzen said in an interview that Mists of Pandaria wouldn't necessarily have to be the end of Garrosh' story. They did deliver on that.

    I think the confusion simply came from one Blizzard employee saying Garrosh dies, when in fact he probably meant when Garrosh is taken down. You know, as in taking down a boss. His choice of words was just confusing.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    they also said garrosh would die at the end of this, so I'm no longer inclined to believe a word they say.
    It's almost as if you tube videos aren't canon.

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    Or maybe they deliberately lied.

    What fun is knowing what happens every single time? Not very. Every single end boss for every expansion thus far just dies, maybe some of you hate it, but it's a change at least.

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    Well of course there will be a 5.5. We need the Garrosh trial and a peace conference. One thing is obvious. Garrosh will not be executed. There would be no point to this trial crap if he died at the end.

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    So now the latest cinematics have been out, I'm pretty sure that there will be a patch 5.5.
    In 5.5 the trial of Garrosh will find place, and cleaning up the mess of the Siege and Pandaria.

    Putting Garrosh's trial in the next expansion wouldn't make sense, so that wouldn't do it.
    It's to late to do it in 5.4 since everything is added already.
    Garrosh is also to big to just forget, and to big to do in a scenario.

    Unless blizzard makes a world event of Garrosh's trial, I assume we will have a 5.5

    Someone else has any other idea?
    Spoiler isn't speculation.

  11. #51
    Its entirely possible that the Trial of Garrosh will be resolved in a book, much like how the bombing of Theramoore happened in a book. It just seems too large, there's a list too big of people he's aggravated, and unless they do like a 30min cutscene, the trial will feel rushed, or silly. So my bets are that its gonna happen in a book.

    Por que odiar si amar es mas dulce? (*^_^*)

  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchor View Post
    They've been doing that for quite a while now, but for some reason most people seem to ignore these examples and keep taking everything Blizzard says as absolute truth. It has happened hundreds of times now over the past 9 years that Blizzard says something and the opposite happens, wether it's about storyline predictions or class or game mechanic changes. :/

    It has made reading Blizzard interviews completely pointless by now...
    I think the problem is that a lot of information about changes happen after the big events like GamesCom. When there's a big event everyone wants to know everything but after that a lot of people don't watch out for twitter or interviews from fansites. I think on twitter one of the lore guys said that Garrosh will be brought to justice as a comment on whether Garrosh will die or not.

    Interviews and comments are right but only when you always look at the latest one and it isn't that easy to find that one. Even a site like MMO-Champion that often gets quoted by other fansites doesn't cover everything. A lot of times you have to read news or corrections in the MMO-Champion forum or in the official forum.

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    they also said garrosh would die at the end of this, so I'm no longer inclined to believe a word they say.
    Sha of Setbacks the next raid end boss?

    Either ways i hope he gets killed considering the damage he's done. Though i'm more interested in seeing what the next ex-pack will be about and it's pre events in the next patch.

    I doubt it'll involve the Burning Legion considering "Titan" has been pushed back a few years.
    Last edited by Demoncrash; 2013-09-12 at 06:22 PM.

  14. #54
    Could be possible Wrathion will kidnap Garrosh and take him with him for "later plans", since he couldn't achieve his goal one a single faction like he wanted.

  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Xeroz View Post
    Why even question patch 5.5.

    They ALWAYS made a .5 to smooth the line from one exp to another.
    they always do it like that. why would it change in this exp?
    They've technically NEVER done it, but ok.

    Vanilla ended with patch 1.11, Naxxramas 40. Opening of the Dark Portal world event happened in Patch 2.0

    BC ended with patch 2.4, Sunwell Plateau. Scourge invasion world event happened in Patch 3.0

    Wrath ended with Ruby Sanctum with patch 3.3.5 which is BY FAR THE CLOSEST EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU SAID, but is technically not patch 3.4. Ruby Sanctum for whatever reason wasn't categorized as a full patch then, more an extension of 3.3 (much like Onyxia with patch 3.2). The Shattering world event happened in Patch 4.0

    Cataclysm ended with Dragon Soul in patch 4.3. Theramore scenario happened in patch 5.0

    Mists of Pandaria MIGHT end with patch 5.5, but until confirmation may be assumed to end with patch 5.4, Siege of Orgrimmar. The presence of a patch between final raid and 6.0 pre patch is admittedly possible but we have no precedent of it.

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    So I'm going to talk a lot about perfect world in the coming days. Because that means we don't have to worry about team limitations, the impending expansion, story obligations, or faction bias.

    Perfect World 5.5 for me would have a few major features. First, it would show the actual visit between Anduin and Garrosh. Likely this would be a brain picking moment, where Anduin tries to understand what would make an honorable Orc, the son of Grom, turn to the powers of an Old God like that. Maybe there will be a redemption moment, maybe it'll foreshadow the coming expansion (5.5 will be after Blizzcon almost for sure). Then there'll be the trial. Garrosh will be inevitably found (or plead) guilty to every war crime since 4.0 and be executed.

    The other major thing will be the Battle for Gilneas. Where Varian sends Alliance champions to aid the Gilneas Reclamation Front in establishing control over the region and beating back the Forsaken. It would be the new gearing area like Karasang and Barrens were before it. Using a mixture of dynamic events and daily quests to help show the conflict between Sylvanas and Genn. Vol'jin would also be involved, as the last thing he wants is to see Sylvanas plunge the Horde back into war with the Alliance. As a major turn of events, it's now the Horde trying to maintain peace instead of the Alliance (Jaina).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrgannus View Post
    They've technically NEVER done it, but ok.

    Vanilla ended with patch 1.11, Naxxramas 40. Opening of the Dark Portal world event happened in Patch 2.0

    BC ended with patch 2.4, Sunwell Plateau. Scourge invasion world event happened in Patch 3.0

    Wrath ended with Ruby Sanctum with patch 3.3.5 which is BY FAR THE CLOSEST EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU SAID, but is technically not patch 3.4. Ruby Sanctum for whatever reason wasn't categorized as a full patch then, more an extension of 3.3 (much like Onyxia with patch 3.2). The Shattering world event happened in Patch 4.0

    Cataclysm ended with Dragon Soul in patch 4.3. Theramore scenario happened in patch 5.0

    Mists of Pandaria MIGHT end with patch 5.5, but until confirmation may be assumed to end with patch 5.4, Siege of Orgrimmar. The presence of a patch between final raid and 6.0 pre patch is admittedly possible but we have no precedent of it.
    Traditionally the pre-event was always the x.0 patch, but MoP may change that. There's an established tradition this expansion of having an extra patch after the tier goes live to provide faster ways to gear up. That's why I included the Battle for Gilneas in my theory.

    And Garrosh's trial is something that should happen sooner rather than later. The longer he waits the more likely he is to be sprung by loyalists or greater evil (the Legion).
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  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    they also said garrosh would die at the end of this, so I'm no longer inclined to believe a word they say.
    Strictly speaking, they said he would be Deposed/dethroned/removed, never once did they use the word "die"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mysticx View Post
    Strictly speaking, they said he would be Deposed/dethroned/removed, never once did they use the word "die"...
    It is true. They said we'd raid Orgrimmar and end Garrosh's reign as warchief once and for all.

    We just assumed he would die because it's a raid, and he isn't holding the position after the raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baladash View Post
    The trail is going to be held in the Ruby Sanctum
    Taran Zhu says that the trial is going to be held on Pandaria. The Ruby Sanctum ≠ Pandaria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeror View Post
    Taran Zhu says that the trial is going to be held on Pandaria. The Ruby Sanctum ≠ Pandaria.
    It'll likely be held either in the Temple of the White Tiger or at the entrance to Mogu'shan Palce, overlooking the destruction of the Vale.
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