View Poll Results: Do you think the sentence is justified?

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  • Yes; The sentence is completely justified for these crimes.

    284 69.95%
  • No; I do not believe in the death penalty and opt for alternative sentencing.

    76 18.72%
  • Indecisive; I'm torn on the sentencing and the conflicting issues at hand that are raised.

    13 3.20%
  • Your own opinion; Post it.

    6 1.48%
  • Popcorn; I enjoy watching threads being de-railed!

    27 6.65%
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  1. #281
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    I think intellectual honesty demands not painting people as crazy merely for disagreeing with you.
    I'm not here to dismiss fucking arguments lol. If something sounds crazy it's crazy. I addressed the issues pages ago with a system like that, now I am just going to saying it's fucking bogus to kill off innocents and deem it okay just because you also kill baddies.

  2. #282
    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    Well that's part of my primary problem with many of these people. It's also not the same as calling them crazy, which is inaccurate and seems to be used mostly to dismiss an argument without first defeating it.
    He did not present any substantial argument that hasn't been refuted a thousand times over and instead just launched straight into a tirade, which in essence, was synonymous with "sometimes, you just gotta kill em". I'm not dismissing any of his arguments, because he presented none.

  3. #283
    Quote Originally Posted by Velaniz View Post
    He did not present any substantial argument that hasn't been refuted a thousand times over and instead just launched straight into a tirade, which in essence, was synonymous with "sometimes, you just gotta kill em". I'm not dismissing any of his arguments, because he presented none.
    Right, I realized I shouldn't have included that afterwards because it's not the case in this case.

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    Yes 100% I mean its gang rape and murder. So obviously its death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    I know I pick my vacation destinations based on their views on capital punishment.
    Having a reputation of letting rape go unpunished is horrible for tourism.

  6. #286
    Quote Originally Posted by Unf View Post
    Having a reputation of letting rape go unpunished is horrible for tourism.
    I'm pretty sure having a reputation for a prolific rape problem is horrible for tourism whether people think you punish it or not. Even if your statement was true, it wouldn't matter anyways since the alternative to capital punishment doesn't have to be letting them go free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xZANGEITIx View Post
    Yes 100% I mean its gang rape and murder. So obviously its death
    Gang rape is slightly more forgivable than one on one rape simply because of how humans begin to function in groups.

  8. #288
    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Gang rape is slightly more forgivable than one on one rape simply because of how humans begin to function in groups.
    What the actual fuck am I reading?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Gang rape is slightly more forgivable than one on one rape simply because of how humans begin to function in groups.
    Seriously?

  10. #290
    Don't want to be put to death? Don't rape and murder people. Not a hard concept. Cannot fathom how you can think this is an okay idea and then whinge when you get justice done to you for it.

    Rape and murder: just say 'no'.
    Paladin Bash has spoken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooneye View Post
    What the actual fuck am I reading?
    When it comes to how you punish people, people that take part of any gang activity I view as less worse than a person acting alone. People in groups tend to go along with the group, conform to the group, do what the group does. It's similar to by stander effect except with people in action. Group mentality drives the group and makes people do things that they normally wouldn't do. Many people can become completely evil seeming if they're in a group that does evil things, even if it's something they typically wouldn't do.

    A person acting alone doing these acts isn't doing it because a group is, isn't impaired from their normal way of thinking and morals because of a group, rather they are like that themselves already and unaltered because of group which puts them in a special kind of fucked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manakin View Post
    Seriously?
    Yes seriously. It's not difficult to see why.

  12. #292
    That doesn't diminish their actions. If anything it makes it worse.

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    failing to see what the problem is here its pieces of shit like this that dont belong in this world
    Well then get your shit together.
    Get it all together. And put it in a backpack. All your shit. So it’s together. And if you gotta take it somewhere, take it somewhere, you know, take it to the shit store and sell it, or put it in a shit museum, I don’t care what you do, you just gotta get it together.
    Get your shit together

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooneye View Post
    That doesn't diminish their actions. If anything it makes it worse.
    It doesn't diminish their actions, but it is less evil than a single person raping a person. Group mentality is a very strong thing and often drives people to do things they typically wouldn't. Now I am just looking at this objectively of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    It doesn't diminish their actions, but it is less evil than a single person raping a person. Group mentality is a very strong thing and often drives people to do things they typically wouldn't.
    glad to see you trying to make gang rape sound like its not that bad
    Well then get your shit together.
    Get it all together. And put it in a backpack. All your shit. So it’s together. And if you gotta take it somewhere, take it somewhere, you know, take it to the shit store and sell it, or put it in a shit museum, I don’t care what you do, you just gotta get it together.
    Get your shit together

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxinius View Post
    glad to see you trying to make gang rape sound like its not that bad
    You are twisting what I am saying. From a victim perspective it's worse.

    I am looking at it from the perspective of how people work in groups.

    Group mentality can move people to do things they typically wouldn't do alone, that should be taken into account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    It doesn't diminish their actions, but it is less evil than a single person raping a person. Group mentality is a very strong thing and often drives people to do things they typically wouldn't. Now I am just looking at this objectively of course.
    No, it's not less evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    You are twisting what I am saying. From a victim perspective it's worse.

    I am looking at it from the perspective of how people work in groups.

    Group mentality can move people to do things they typically wouldn't do alone, that should be taken into account.
    group or no group it doesnt make the act less evil
    Well then get your shit together.
    Get it all together. And put it in a backpack. All your shit. So it’s together. And if you gotta take it somewhere, take it somewhere, you know, take it to the shit store and sell it, or put it in a shit museum, I don’t care what you do, you just gotta get it together.
    Get your shit together

  19. #299
    Killing these guys won't make her come back to life, so no...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooneye View Post
    No, it's not less evil.
    I think that an individual driven by herd mentality is less evil than a person driven by only themselves.

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