*Enchants are expensive due to a low faction population and hence ridiculously expensive Enchants on the AH
*He'd got those three items recently (according to his item tracker on his Armory)
*Belt Buckles are expensive like above
*Two of those three missing tinkers are on his new items (that is, Gloves, Waist or Back).
Nothing can fix the attitude of either of you though.
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Why is it up to everyone else to teach people that gems/enchants are standard practice for raiding? If they've raided at all in the last 6 years they know what is expected. If you step up to normal mode you should also be expected to be optimally reforged.
Granted those 7 enchants and 7 missing sockets won't have a huge effect on DPS, we shouldn't be required to put up with lazy people.
You need to say "hello, how do you do, what's the weather like out your way" et cetera before you start in with "So in regard to your lack of gems that's bringing us all down...."
Basically, people interpret unsolicited advice/criticism from a stranger as an assault, and react in one of three ways:
(1) Ignore it/take it in silence and hope it goes away (the "mature" response),
(2) Feel shitty about being berated by a stranger (more of a female response),
(3) Respond aggressively (typical 18-30 yo male response).
They never, ever (4) Have an epiphany and feel instant gratitude toward the advice-giver.
It doesn't matter whether your advice is 100% correct. Not a bit.
It usually goes like this:
"WHY DON'T YOU HAVE GEMS?" Like... asking a question you know the answer to, in a sort of put-down-y way. 8 times out of 10, it's that. If not that, then outright insults. Very rarely is anyone actually civilized.
If you don't want to raid with someone who is missing most of his enchants and gems, that's fine, but just bow out of it. There's no need to, basically, start a fight over something that doesn't matter to either of you.
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It's not, though. Not a bit.
I don't know how many players are either in or looking for guilds that wish to raid. I'm not even sure we can agree on what an 'average' player really is much like we can't agree and never will on a definition for 'casual'.
Changing subjects slightly: One interesting thing that I'm seeing in some of the comments about people not moving out of things in Flex: Players that are starting to raid in Flex that haven't done a lot of it or only seen raids in LFR need to learn that at first it's OK to stop casting for a couple of GCD's to move. If they don't know, someone should say so. There's a certain amount of worship for DPS to always be casting which at some level is true enough but better to move and let your DPS suffer for a few GCD's than to die. Because of the worship for meters that doesn't always get across. Once they get used to not tunneling and start moving then they can figure out how to use their instants while moving or whatever they have available. It's an important point that people don't learn well. Always be casting leads to tunneling if you're not careful. Staying alive is more important than perfectly executing a priority system. The truly excellent player can do both but that's a really distinct minority compared to all.
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The Flexible Size is really amazing, people can join, leave, or DC for a while on the flight and the Raid doesnt have to be interrupted to LFM for half an hour. Difficulty is a problem though: When the servers open you get the Nerds who plow through the content and at the day before Reset there are mostly Noobs who maybe get one or two bosses down but not more.
I personally wished it would be a bit easier at the later bosses and the loot should have lower ilvl so that it isn't relevant for HEroic Raiders, though.
Good thing on medium pop server is, you can just look at wowprogress at the guilds and then roughly now what awaits you. That said, I haven't puged anything in t16 yet :P
I'd make a comment about Baleroc, but lolspriest made it too easy.
Try again, sir.
I love flex, doing it with socials and alts. Socials are mainly people who quit raiding because of real life stuff. Which means I can still play with them :-)
It is however up to recruitment (RL or Officers) to get players who are reliable to suit the schedule.
This is why it sounds like I'm dismissing arguments. Because there's a leap of logic after that inserted comma.2. the goal of any guild is the perogative of the members of that guild. if running with friends with more important than accomplishing normal mode, they use flex. if accomplishing normal mode is more important than runnign with friends, they sit people. all choices entail opportunity costs.
If playing with friends is more important than accomplishing something then all that means is you aren't going to substitute them.
Believe it or not, guilds have done this in the past but still played in Normal.
You're right but who decides what is "absurd?"3. Argument ad absurdem/strawmanning is an invalid rhtorical strategy.
When LFR was released you might say that the idea of a 4th difficulty was a "strawman."
To me wiping in flex is not a big deal. It's the same as wiping with my guild on hc. People suck, just on different levels.
I'm confused, are people really having this bad an experience in Flex? We're making a point as a guild (we're a large social guild) to do open Flex raiding on Friday nights, we took 25 people last week all ranging in gear from 49x to 540 with the average being about 520 and we wiped one time to Sha of Pride, for most people it was their first time seeing these bosses.
I know Pugs are always a wild card but frankly it was almost as easy as LFR, with the difference being pretty much that you can't actually stand in the fire on Flex, the damage and healing requirements were roughly the same, maybe about 20% higher.
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Meaning that is like LFR, a random player of your server is making his own raid with other random players he doesn't know to their own standard.
That's why for example the person above checked the armory to see if the Raid lead (the one who made the raid) was decently geared, gemed and enchanted.
And since it wasn't the case, that person left the raid.
Flex is so popular with PUG that they want to remove LFR.
Kinda ironic don't you think when they're just oraganizing a LFR but on their own server.
Flex was created for small guilds or middle type guild (or group of friends) who dodn't have enough people to make raids (that was said many time by a blue)
Not for making a personal LFR, imo.
Do you really want to defend the extreme laziness of a raid leader organizing a raid for the last tier of the expansion? By all means please explain why that's acceptable.