Blizzard White Knighting is not allowed
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I have it. I call it welfare. I dont mean it in an offensive way, but in more of a sense of how its acquired. Mulling it up will just be ignorance on my part. Previously legendaries at least required you to kill the final boss. Before that legendaries requires heavy rng. Before that they required boss kill, rng and insane mind mashing progression.
The only other legendary I got besides this, on its current content, was tarecgosa's rest. All through out the way it felt like I was working on something. My team mates were helping me build it, doing the special boss with me, working on hard modes to reach it faster. So in the end when I finally got it, it was awesome and the dps increase rewarded felt like it was earned and that it wasnt present before but is now.
This cloak, is sweet but mild compared to prior. If the glowy wings dont pop now and then, I wouldnt know if I had an orange on my back or a rather powerful epic. And the most glaring reaosn that most people will point out is. LFR. before legendaries, were acquired by those few across the server. With the lfr drops, your cloak is no different from anyone. It could be a grey cloak with a cool spell effect and extreme damage increase.
Thats why, because it doesnt follow what was set as the theme for a legendary. But then again, the game is in flux, everything is changing or has changed. This is one of them.
though honestly this version, even those dubbed welfare by many, including me, works better than the previous. all the drama surrounding legendaries is now gone. which is perfect, guilds shouldnt have to deal with that shit. Furthermore now since everyone gets it dps disparities are easier to balance. And finally, there is no such, picking and choosing some member over another.
Last edited by Minikin; 2013-09-17 at 01:08 AM.
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Referring to something as welfare that you have to do entirely on your own seems counterintuitive to me.
What makes the glaives welfare is that you didn't have to do anything beyond killing Illidan. The cloak is a lot of work, the glaives are just luck.
If it's so easy in your eyes there is literally no excuse for you to have dropped it, especially on arguably the easiest part of the quest.
I don't consider this legnedary quest line a success. But if someone else wants to see that otherwise, it's not up to you, me or anyone else to tell them otherwise, especially someone who quit barely a third of the way into it.
I have the cloak and i raided normals to get the items like most bla blas bla, i still personly find it a walfare epic. when the chain first started i thought cool a nice legendary only a few who can finish the quest can get. I found it very.. lack luster at the end and as if blizzard ran out of idea's nd just went "here you go to shut you up" kinda legendary. I miss the old legendarys, Rags hammer, thunderfury, mace from uld i forgot how to spell :P things that really did take time and effort to get. any casual can get this legendary cloak these days. Im personly not happy with it and didnt even try do get it just.. comes as you do the quests and new zones.
This "legendary" item and questline has severely diminished the value, exclusivity, and sense of accomplishment that stems from the legendary item. I haven't even amassed all of my sigils yet, and, seeing the uncalled over-abundance of these items out there, I may just drop the whole thing altogether.
Before this, I used to look up to the few players that had legendary weapons equipped - from Shadowmourne (I started when ICC came out) to the Fangs. They put the time and the hard work collecting the necessary materials and putting the necessary boss-faces in the dirt to earn those items. They had every reason to flaunt them, because they deserved it.
Going back to my previous point about over-abundance, now after the patch, I see many players with that orange cape on.... it's just doesn't have the "legendary" that I'm used to seeing, and that, I am disappointed of. I'll have to see what happens with the orange flair when X5 comes around...
Seriously, if you have to resort to such ridiculous comments then your argument is null and void.
So what if you can do it in LFR? Remember how many people struggled with the PvP parts, or the solo scenerio parts, or when you have to battle Wrathion?
Exactly. Now shush.
Lol I still like how everyone thinks that the old legendaries were "a challenge" to get. Newsflash, guild loot drama != acquisition difficulty. Nor does RNG drops for legendaries or any of the other methods they have used so far to award legendary items. The only way they could have made getting a legendary hard is to make a solo scenario that is near impossible to execute a part of the questline. I'm sorry, but downing farm content every single week with an RNG chance for a legendary isn't difficult, it's just tedious.
Think about it, the legendary cloak questline is EXACTLY the same as every other legendary has been so far, just without the RNG chance to start and the RNG chance to finish. Sulf = Eye + RNG drops, Thunderfury = two RNG binding drops + RNG drops, Val'anyr = RNG drops. Shadowmourne is probably the "hardest" legendary so far to get. Glaives, which seems to be the big example in this thread, were by far and away the easiest, literally dropping from a farmable boss. And don't kid yourselves that normal mode content has ever been hard either.. I was raiding BT when I was like 15 years old.
Well, I think it *is* a welfare legendary solely because you can get it without running a single normal mode raid. That doesn't bother me though. I don't have the time to do structured raiding anymore and it's nice to have more content to run. Some don't like it, and that's find, but it's ok with me.
It was obtained through LFR with very little real effort involved and by many more players than was customary in the past. Of course those who have obtained real legendaries will be a bit condescending considering that direction that wow has been going towards catering to casuals.