using caps & getting stressed over a post. 21k+ posts in 2 1/2 years, you really should get out more.
its a legendary because blizzard says it is. not because some keyboard warrior with more time on his hands than he obviously knows what to with, says otherwise.
Last edited by twistedsista; 2013-09-21 at 01:48 PM.
You dont know shit.
I actually raided BT when it was relevant, and we downed Thrillidan.
We carried several people several times because our roster changed due to people quitting or rerolling.
We didnt bother going though Karazan=>gruul/maghteridon=>SSC/TK.
It was not hard, and there were most certainly guides.
Your ignorance doesnt make content hard.
The cloak is far more legendary than any "legendary" up until valanyr.
RNG doesnt make somethign legendary.
The effort and time required to get it does.
And no shit there are more cloaks than any other legendary, they finally had the sense to do away with silly bullshit class restricted legendaries.
Your worst dps is a hunter? Too bad, the legendary can only be used by hunters. have fun squandering such a powerfull item (although the bow was actually really good for rogues too)
You're all pissing acid because you arent little speshiul snowflakes anymore.
Get fucking over yourselves, you werent important to begin with.
If you got glaives day 1 of them being available you were not carried get that in your head. People like you would have never cleared BT when it was relevant.
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Also collecting hearts for SR gear was about as hard as say oh I don't know half of the quests for the current legendary.
Very much the same as this 'legendary'. You can label it legendary all you want, but the amount of them, the ease of attaining, and the fact all 10-25 people in a raid group can have it with ease make it from 'legendary'.
None of the legendaries were "hard" to get. They were RNG fests, but not hard. The only difference now is that you don't have to drag 9/24/39 others with you to get one piece of gear.
To anyone saying you could carry people through raids previously: Yeah, sure, but would you give them the legendary? Also, even getting carried by a hardcore guild requires more work than finishing LFR.
I agree that individual legendaries are much better for the game than guild legendaries. But they should require an amount of skill to complete, else it completely devalues the item. At least make the chain require killing the end bosses in normal difficulty (people who have trouble with it can do it in the next patch with the nerfs to the previous tier).
Everytime i look at my Thunderfury i think "Dammn those where the good days" yes there was a lot or RNG involved but back then the guild i was in was way past MC and we didnt have a reason to go back too MC damm left bracer needed the right one for months went back in 1 time and it dropped happiest day of my wow life.
Last edited by Endonyx; 2013-09-21 at 01:14 PM.
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My Paladin (I raid LFR due to work schedule and not wanting to deal with guild drama) pulled it off with a 517 ilevel, I wiped 20-30 times. My buddy's DK who raids Heroic did it one shot, barely even worrying about the mechanics, around a 535+ ilevel...
Frankly, anyone who did it in LFR gear deserves more props, cause it was actually harder. Anyone who did it in Heroic gear steamrolled it like it was barely there.
Games are not necessarily "easier" today. You are just a better player.
It takes more now to impress many gamers than it did 2-5 years ago, because so much has already been seen and done.
Many players expect to be wow'd with every release of a beloved franchise.
These are generally NOT the fault of the developers, but the fault of many players over-hyping and/or setting expectations too high.
I don't personally think that the length of time used to obtain a legendary is important in how I perceive it, but the difficulty in obtaining it is important to me.
I've not been very fond of this legendary series, it hasn't been very engaging and has just been a year long "Gather X of Y" quest line with the very small amount of lore from Wrathion in between. I don't consider this a Welfare Legendary, but I wouldn't really call this a Legendary Questline either.
Everyone has been able to obtain it and there isn't any major skill or determination required to obtain it, just throwing a few months at a raid is all it takes. I think Legendaries should require players to go above and beyond the call of duty, where this has just required them to go about their normal activities anyway.
What is "legendary" about an item if everyone has it (or can have it)?
Also legendary has to do with Lore. There was only 1 legendary to date that really had no sense in the scheme of things and that was thoridal. Rogue daggers were a stretch but yeah
Last edited by purebalance; 2013-09-21 at 02:45 PM.
"Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Sometimes those opinions are wrong though." Daxxarri
Bottom line: Never care what other people think. If you are in a raiding guild and your guild is happy with you, then nobody else matters. Screw them.
As an aside, I cannot wait for the item squish to come in which will drop the legendary cloak into the realm of awesome only for as long as it takes them to release the next expansion where the first green cloak you find will be better. The rage will be wonderful to watch.