My dps went up a LOT when I got mine this week!!
(To people who have no idea wtf I'm referring to: http://www.wowhead.com/item=102303, because idk how the hell to link items :<)
I'm really wondering what they were thinking when they made the cleave trinkets.
Cleave trinket... Meh, never really thought it was that great and personally don't want to bother with it. Toxic Totem is cool, but it kinda irritates me how it pops up as a Frostfire Bolt for Frost spec (and floods my MSBT). BB is our BiS anyways, and well, as we've recently found, Immerseus is BiS for every spec (Frost at Heroic gear levels), so... yeah. Loving that Crit Damage, even if it's under 7% atm :F
Though I'm kinda curious about one thing... How would Immerseus's Crit Damage scale with the Burning Meta gem? Would they just add together, or multiply? (and for theorycrafting purposes, refer to the chart below based on what version of the trinket you're using to calculate)
It wouldn't be that big a boost if they multiply (since 1.03 * 1.090035 is 1.1273605, so it's about 0.74% more than added together to make 12%), but I am curious about it nonetheless and if BoI would increase the value of Burning at all.
Last edited by Polarthief; 2013-09-27 at 11:54 PM.
Im playing arcane, so no i wont go for BBoY, and even when ill go fire on a lot of hc fights i wont be aiming for BBoY, as i stated before in this thread BBoY is useless in progression and is only Epeen tool for farm, witch i dont really care about. so ill go for immerseus and kardris.
The immerseus trinket proc chance is sometimes so unbearably crap that you just want to HS out and call it a day, atleast as frost. I can't express how much I want another RPPM trinket to accompany my Totem.
Maybe if you somehow ended up with one for free because it dropped and nobody wanted it, then you might consider using it, but I wonder if it is actually worth the effort of swapping out.
I got the War forged cleave trinket off coin... ofc the only thing i can get besides lfr BoI. (and before you ask why i even coined on malkorok.. dont its a short and embarrassing story -.-)
And yes the 8% was total damage for the entire fight ofc. For the 2 kills i have had the trinket equipped its been 8% both times, and cloak 7.1% both times.
And lets be honest once you reach galakras the fight is over any way(it's pretty much over before you start even =P)
I am not advocating the trinket, as polar said KTT and BoI is my bis. I mentioned the cleave trinket because some one brought it up as useless, i merely pointed out that in some situations it can do quite well.
Edit: Actually went through my logs to see how much the trinket does single target, the answer is 0%. When reading the tooltip again it makes sense as it duplicates your spell to a target to 5 other targets, but not the target it proc'd off.
Last edited by stX3; 2013-09-28 at 07:43 AM.
Which means I just wasted a sentence and could have just said it was crap.
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(Damage * 2) = Crit damage
(Damage * 2) * 1.03 = Crit damage with Burning meta
(Damage * 2) * 1.03 * 1.090035 = Crit with both trinket and Burning meta
Assuming 20% crit ratio:
Average damage on spell strike with Burning meta = (1-0.2)+(0.2*2.06) = 1.212
Average damage on spell strike with Burning + Trinket = (1-0.2)+(0.2*2.2454721) = 1.24909442
Effective Crit strike chance from Trinket alone*: = (1.24909442-1)/(2.06-1) = 23.49947358%
Hence the trinket adds (at maximum) ~3.5% Crit Chance, 9.0035% Haste and 9.0035% Mastery (at 20% Crit Chance), plus proc.
This doesn't count the Crit you lose from replacing an Int trinket, though, a side-by-side comparison would have to be made.
*Solve ((1-a)+(a*2.06))=1.24909442, rearranged for brevity
I just got normal bindings of immerseus! I got wushoolay's 2/2 froged to crit and TF Cha-Ye's 2/2, i dont know wich to swap first!
If I were you, I would probably drop Wushoolay's if I were fire, if I were Arcane or Frost I would drop Ch-Ye's.