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    High Overlord -Azax-'s Avatar
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    Siege Trinket question

    Haromm's talisman 528 0/2 ( lfr ) Vs Viscious talisman of the shado pan assault 522 0/2

    which to use?

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    I'll join the fun...

    Sigil of Rampage (Normal) vs. Bad JuJu (Normal)?

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    Haromm's is by far superior. With the multi hit proc alone.

    As for sigil of rampage, only on cleave fights would I use that over bad juju.

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    The cleave trinkets do barely any damage. They are awful. That actually goes for the healing versions too.

    Haromm's > talisman of shadopan
    bad juju > sigil

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    I currently have HC juju and TF HC Renataki , how is FLEXversion of AOC and Haromm standing against the ones i have? I play SV btw.

    Haven't had any luck on thinkets yet, that's why i'm asking...

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    Great, exactly the thread I was looking for :-p

    I have Viscious talisman (normal 2/2) and Bad Juju (normal 2/2)
    Yesterday I've got Assurance of Consequence (normal)

    I think I should replace Bad Juju with AoC....but not sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by puttekula View Post
    I currently have HC juju and TF HC Renataki , how is FLEXversion of AOC and Haromm standing against the ones i have? I play SV btw.

    Haven't had any luck on thinkets yet, that's why i'm asking...
    AoC and Haromm are your two BiS trinkets...

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    Quote Originally Posted by infinityzx View Post
    Great, exactly the thread I was looking for :-p

    I have Viscious talisman (normal 2/2) and Bad Juju (normal 2/2)
    Yesterday I've got Assurance of Consequence (normal)

    I think I should replace Bad Juju with AoC....but not sure
    I would probably run Talisman and AOC especially if you use AMoC. Both those trinkets have 115s cooldown and 20s proc which is perfect for a huge AMoC every time it comes up, and delay your second Stampede for when they both go off a third time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlaena View Post
    AoC and Haromm are your two BiS trinkets...

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    Even at FLEX itemlevel?

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    Haromm's Talisman or Vicious Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assault

    I would go with Haromm's. Try going ham on a target dummy and see what happens.
    “What was God doing before the divine creation? Was he preparing hell for people who asked such questions?” - Stephen Hawking

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    Quote Originally Posted by puttekula View Post
    Even at FLEX itemlevel?
    I'm wondering about the same aswell, flex Haromm vs HC TF Rentaki.

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    I'm not thinking Sigil's cleave effect. I'm thinking the proc, which in my eyes is better than Juju's. My question is if it's good enough to go over Juju's secondary stats. FD gave me +1k dps when using sigil, but is it counting also cleave damage somehow, I don't know. Might be also that I have messed something in FD. Toon is 'Piiukka - Terokkar - EU' if someone is intrested to check if my results are right.

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    I would like to thank everyone for their replies.

    After reading this i indeed simmed it ( i've never really simmed much so never dicked with it ) and it was a ~4k increase so i've been using it.

    All your help and comments are appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puttekula View Post
    Even at FLEX itemlevel?
    Quote Originally Posted by Avada Kedavra View Post
    Haromm's Talisman or Vicious Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assault

    I would go with Haromm's. Try going ham on a target dummy and see what happens.
    Quote Originally Posted by Matru View Post
    I'm wondering about the same aswell, flex Haromm vs HC TF Rentaki.

    I did a few tests for you and it looks like HC TF Renataki ~ LFR Haromm. I would certainly use Flex Haromm > any version of any ToT trinket. This is for SV.
    Last edited by Carlaena; 2013-09-28 at 01:03 AM.

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    My turn as well then!

    Got WF AoC

    Also 530 Juju and Renataki, which do I replace with AoC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenixm View Post
    My turn as well then!

    Got WF AoC

    Also 530 Juju and Renataki, which do I replace with AoC?
    Pretty sure the RPPM nerf hit Juju worse than Renatakis, so you'd replace Bad Juju.

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    femaledwarf.com

    even lfr aoc is usually a dps upgrade over tf 2/2 ToT trinkets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenixm View Post
    My turn as well then!

    Got WF AoC

    Also 530 Juju and Renataki, which do I replace with AoC?
    Yeah I'd probably replace Juju.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juurikkala View Post
    I'm not thinking Sigil's cleave effect. I'm thinking the proc, which in my eyes is better than Juju's. My question is if it's good enough to go over Juju's secondary stats. FD gave me +1k dps when using sigil, but is it counting also cleave damage somehow, I don't know. Might be also that I have messed something in FD. Toon is 'Piiukka - Terokkar - EU' if someone is intrested to check if my results are right.
    My site does not include cleave damage in the sim for the cleave trinket because it doesn't affect the primary target. It's really only useful on multi-target fights which I don't sim on the site.

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    how does Haromm's Talisman work with explosive shot?

    is just one tick copied or the full damage one explosive shot does?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohai View Post
    how does Haromm's Talisman work with explosive shot?

    is just one tick copied or the full damage one explosive shot does?
    It procs off individual ticks I believe. It also can proc off of ticks of other abilities such as serpent sting or murder of crows- pretty much any hunter ability or tick can proc it.

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