It's immensely frustrating which is why I generally stay out of LFR the first couple of weeks a wing opens (unless going along with friends or guild) and why I have openly embraced flex which I hope is really more the future of low-difficulty raiding. I don't expect LFR to go away nor do I want it to but my ongoing expectations about LFR--reflected in my posts about it since it became a reality--is to go in expecting to have a little bit of non-serious fun, no expectations about gear or success and to simply go with the flow. When the flow comes to a halt then I do what I believe to be best to make a small contribution to getting it started again.
I don't think there's really any point in setting out to hunt down 'bads' or anything else since you're unlikely to ever see them again. That also means that while I don't mind politely pointing out obvious group issues ("Don't DPS on Nazgrim when in defensive stance") it's about the worst environment imaginable for trying to teach someone anything. That may be right or wrong but that's really how I see it. You do what you can but try to be realistic about what's possible and whatever you do, don't do anything that's destructive of group progress solely to be the center of attention.
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I also think that the increased difficulty of normal and heroic raids has meant that raiders, in particular the average skilled, have needed every bit of help than can get in order to beat the content which has forced them into LFR.
Blizzard have stated that it is a case of either make 5 mans or raids and obviously their choice was raids and I don't think it has worked out very well as given the choice players would prefer to spend 15 mins each day running a dungeon.
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You aren't forced into raiding at all. There is plenty to do. Not to mention the whole "reason" LFR is defended on this site to begin with. This is where I use that "1%" argument as a counter. People complained that "1%" of people were seeing the good stuff. So Blizzard listened to the masses and made things much easier in Wrath. Well that just wasn't good enough. Thats where they made LFR for people still not interested in even easier raids. Its what the people wanted.
In reality, people have no clue what they want, or why the even play games.
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What I think is rather telling is all the people mentioning how "this isn't a problem in the EU."
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I never had something like that happen to me, despite me usually carrying the group with something between 20 and 33% of the total raid dps (1/5 up to 1/3). I run lfr quite often out of boredom and if bad players are being called out, other players immediately kind of group-curb-stomp them in chat, even if they are not any better.
The only times you really get resistance for calling bad people out is when they have friends or guild mates around.
The rewards from LFR are so much better than you can get from any source other than organised raiding. The players never asked for raiding to made more accessible it was Blizzard that decided that everyone should get to see raids and they have admitted it was not financially viable to keep creating content that so few players were playing through so they had to make the choice to either scale down the investment or make it appeal to a greater audience.
"Raiding" or something like it is something inherent in MMOs, if you don't like raiding I would suggest another game instead of trying to change things for everyone else.
The players did in fact demand things to be easier and "more accessible."
If you don't want to raid or kill bosses, don't. Again, this might not be the game for you. If you just want to customize your toon and talk to people and play mini games, I would suggest Second Life or the Sims.
You can still get purples from other sources. Why do you want better gear if you dont like raiding?
Voted not sure, because I don't think it's really an union, just other bad players getting offended as well.
I would never vote kick someone who is pointing out someone doing terrible dps or failing hard on tactics, because I find it far more annoying that someone has come in the LFR without any knowledge on tactics or his/her class and is not willing to improve. I just think that who is wasting mine and other's time should get vote kicked. Im not asking perfection on tactics or 200k dps, just some awareness, willing to learn a bit and using even 50% of the class potential.
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Personally I think its more of an addiction. Why AFK through the content at all? Why play a game if you want to come in and barely try? Why are you worrying about raiding if you don't even like it that much? I think the answer to these questions isn;t simple, and is something more an expert could answer.
The question you need to ask yourself is this: If WoW isn;t that fun for you, if you are are AFKing and complaining about the end game context, what about WoW is actually fun to you? What brought you to this game and why are you staying if you really don't like raiding, or playing an RPG in general?
If its just doing activities with random people, play second life. You can build an avatar and literally do whatever you want anyehre you want. You can make yourself look as pretty as you want. Want to be a girl while you;re a guy in real life? THATS FINE!
Well, maybe its not the social aspect, but just the killing of things. I'm sure there are plenty of games like that, Skyrim, Kingdom of AMalur maybe...
I feel like people were interested in WoW for whatever reason, but its just not for them. Instead of finding a game more suitable for their desires, they demand it change for their purposes. Its like dating someone because you both like chocolate ice cream and nothing else. THEN demanding that person start to like kayaking, when they currently hate kayaking.
You can notice same shit on these forums. Few individuals pointing obvious mistakes Blizz does - suddenly hundred retards saying you are dumbass.